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07-17-2007, 12:13 AM | #1 |
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OT: Talk me out of/into a 240SX w/swap
Looking to pick up a project car in early '08 and have it finished by May-ish. Will be working on it with my stepdad and little brother, who will turn 15 next Feb. I'd like to get him wrenching on a car and not just handing me/my stepdad tools like he feels is all he can do now.
I think our best bet right now would be a 240SX with an SR20DET swap. I can get a front clip online right now for about three thousand. I've seen a few cars in the 2500-3000 range, and I don't think it will be that difficult to find one for that come January/February. The motor will most likely be kept stock, but I'd like to upgrade the turbo and supporting mods to get it in the 300-350whp range. It will not be a daily driver, more like a weekend car and maybe a few road races (we have a trailer). I think the total we are aiming for is going to be 8-12k including the car. Those of you who have any experience with swapped 240's, please chime in. I'm getting started on my research now because every motor I've seen has a 30 day start-up warranty, so I need to know we can do this and do it right. I don't want a bucket of headaches but a fun project car the three of us can build together. I've read the wiring is pretty cake, but I have no experience with it myself. CN: Is a 240SX with SR20DET swap the right way to go for an affordable (8-12k) swapped project car? If not, what do you suggest and why? Only thing is no Miata, stepdad will NOT fit.
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07-17-2007, 12:20 AM | #2 |
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do it, clean 240's ftw.
IT will teach your bro a lot too, which is awesome. Id try and stay off a timeline, these things take longer than expected. |
07-17-2007, 12:24 AM | #3 |
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Kat Ftw
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07-17-2007, 12:26 AM | #4 |
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07-17-2007, 12:28 AM | #5 |
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I'd go turbo KA too, what are your reasons against it?
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07-17-2007, 12:30 AM | #6 |
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ignore the nerds, LS7 swap.
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07-17-2007, 12:31 AM | #7 |
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07-17-2007, 12:31 AM | #8 |
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07-17-2007, 12:34 AM | #9 |
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Have you thought about a muscle car, or something a little lower tech (i.e. fox body Mustang)? Depending on you and your stepfather/little brothers mechanical proficiency, a turbo motor might be a bit much to just start right into. If you're just looking for something to mess around with and not devote an incredible amount of time and research to, I suggest looking elsewhere.
If, on the other hand, you've done something like this before, then go nuts; 240SX=hawt, SR20DET=hawt. 240SX+SR20DET=((hawtX2)+Sweetness)^2 |
07-17-2007, 12:35 AM | #10 |
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Wouldn't the best option for turboing the stock motor be going to a standalone? That is something I definitely do not want to do. I have read that it's difficult to find a KA in good shape, especially in the price range I am looking for to get the car.
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07-17-2007, 12:39 AM | #11 |
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Considered it. Fellow members on the boards (brothers who live 5 minutes down the road) put an LS1 (maybe LS2) in an FD. They have much more mechanical experience than I do and it was not a simple project as far as I know. Dealing with the wiring differences is something I do not want to do with my first swap.
As far as the muscle car aspect, we have a '69 Corvette, 4spd, 350 small block bored .030" over. Stepdad checked out a 442 but it didn't work out; I suggested something foreign. This will also help my brother to get much more involved, as he loves turbos. My other thought as a 2nd generation Eclipse with a newer 4G63 swap, but I have no idea about the wiring involved for something like that. |
07-17-2007, 12:52 AM | #12 | |
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07-17-2007, 12:53 AM | #13 |
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I just sent ya a PM man. The shop thats doing my swapped 240 is an awesome one. They're top notch guys, really nice, stand-up guys that know their stuff about Nissan's. And if I read right that you're a do-it-yourselfer, then they have a pretty quick turnaround time for parts.
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07-17-2007, 12:58 AM | #14 | ||
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http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=440016
+ http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=444485 917rwhp on a stock 1jz with cams. Quote:
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07-17-2007, 01:16 AM | #15 |
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From the car domain link alone it looks like it will be too expensive. Also visited the 2jz website and they want $1500 for just the crossmember, motor mounts, and something else. Also, wayyy too much power for what we are looking to do here.
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07-17-2007, 01:20 AM | #16 |
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And the fact that KA-T's go POP very quickly. And don't ever let anyone tell you any different. I've seen thousands more KA-T's go pop than I have SR20's, and even less than that have been RB20's and 25's.
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07-17-2007, 01:35 AM | #17 |
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Yeah, that's what I've been reading. I'm thinking a Full-Race turbo kit will be in the future for this car, and I didn't see the RB20DET there as an option they have a kit for. I'm not doubting the motor at all, and you're right, they're cheaper on eBay than the SR20DETs, but the biggest thing for me is going to be simplicity. It looks like I have a path to head down now, so it's time for some bed now and then research in the morning.
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07-17-2007, 11:46 AM | #18 |
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Bump for day crew and possibly other opinions
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07-17-2007, 11:49 AM | #19 |
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SR20's are weak in comparison to other options as well as the fact you can find a ton of them already swapped for less than 12k.
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07-17-2007, 11:55 AM | #20 | |
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What would you suggest as a simpler and more cost effective motor? |
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07-17-2007, 11:56 AM | #21 |
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So buy a swapped car that's totalled and a new body to put the motorset in.
Figure 5k or less for a totalled, swapped 240sx, 500-2k for a decent body with blown motor. Still less than your budget. Personally I'd go LS1, but that's just me. |
07-17-2007, 11:57 AM | #22 |
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A 240SX + an SR20DET are a thing of beauty. Really cheap to do as well. I've been wanting to do one for a long time now.
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07-17-2007, 12:03 PM | #23 | ||
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07-17-2007, 12:04 PM | #24 |
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rebuild KA bottom end, boost the bageebus out of it. ur still gonna come out sheaper then an sr swap, with a ton more TQ. if you decide you want an sr, pm me what you want for your KA as i know where i can pick up an s13shell for next to nothing. and you do not need a complete standalone
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07-17-2007, 12:05 PM | #25 |
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I will remember that, but don't forget we probably won't have a car in our hands for 6-7 months. I did plan to sell the stock motor and tranny as a way to recoup some funds, although probably not much.
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