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02-16-2011, 05:47 PM | #1101 |
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I'd love a Forester XT with the current WRX spec engine plus both the 5 speed manual & 5EAT available. I'd even settle for just those transmission choices & the current engine...
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02-21-2011, 08:31 PM | #1102 |
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If Chevy can offer a diesel Cruze here in the USA, why not a diesel Forester, etc.?
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02-23-2011, 12:13 PM | #1103 | |
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First thing is first - Subaru needs to improve the fuel economy on the Forester line and the Tribeca line. The Tribeca fuel economy is a joke. The next place Subaru needs to work is on the fuel economy for the 3.6R models of the Outback and Legacy. Please for the love of God Subaru, get NEW TRANSMISSION TECHNOLOGY for your higher performance models!!!!!! 4 speed automatics are a joke, and were common in GM and Chrysler models before those two companies went bankrupt. The 5 speed automatic is another insult. You folks can't source the 7-speed Jatco units that replaced the 5-speed Jatco units you are currently using? You could probably kick those 3.6R models to 27 mpg highway with a 7 speed automatic, and the Forester XT models to close to 30 mpg. Last edited by GodWhomIsMike; 02-23-2011 at 12:19 PM. |
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02-23-2011, 02:55 PM | #1104 | |
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I am glad Subaru is making great numbers right now, and hopefully it can continue. But I feel in order to continue this trend, it will have to improve its fuel economy. |
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02-23-2011, 03:02 PM | #1105 | |
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One of subarus biggest problems with fuel economy is the fact it's AWD, do you really need that in sacramento ?
Seems like you're wife would much like a honda civic better, no ? Quote:
I've heard several reasons why SOA hasn't gotten the diesel legacy in the USA yet. |
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02-23-2011, 03:24 PM | #1106 |
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AWD only makes about 1MPG difference or less. You can make the most direct comparison on the Subaru of Japan website, viewing AWD and FWD Imprezas. Legacy gets as good of MPG as its competitors, same for Outback. Impreza with a purported 35 MPG rating will be out this summer, following by a hybrid the following year.
There is essentially no MPG penalty for Subaru's AWD anymore, IMHO. |
02-23-2011, 03:55 PM | #1107 |
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Hey SOA_Blog, since the RWD coupe will be a Subaru rebadged as a Scion/Toyota, why not take the iQ and rebadge it as a Subaru!!!!!
You'll meet your CAFE numbers easily that way! (Aston Martin is already rebadging the iQ as the Cygnet, so you'll be in good company!) http://www.astonmartin.com/thecars/cygnet |
02-24-2011, 05:30 PM | #1108 |
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2 seater
Subaru needs to make a 2 seater converable with STI driveline and the AWD.
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03-02-2011, 02:43 AM | #1109 |
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Suggestion for a future model. If you guys get tired of playing tokyo drift with Toyota how about do something truly unique(at least in the $20-35k price range).
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03-02-2011, 08:16 PM | #1110 |
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03-07-2011, 05:49 PM | #1111 |
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I think I would rather have a convertible and AWD in two separate cars.
Which is why I have two subarus, separate from also having a miata in the garage. The AWD is a technical performance upgrade, which befits a stiff hard-top bodystyle. A convertible top is a nice feature on a sunny day, when the weather is good, but tends to cowl-shake if you really push it to perform. A convertible is not much fun in the cold, or bad weather, and AWD has a smaller advantage margin over RWD in the dry and warm weather where a convertible is a nice car to drive. I like a convertible for lifestyle fun, and some performance aspect in nice weather. I like AWD hard-tops for technical fun, in any kind of weather, but especially an advantage when wanting some fun in inclement weather. They aren't absolutely mutually exclusive, but they tend to be separate spheres of influence. You could build an AWD convertible, but it you'd only be using half the car at a time, either really loving the AWD in the weather, or the convertible top in the sun. If any Subaru were to be a convertible, the new RWD coupe could drop it's top, and really try to compete with the Miata, with insurance friendly vestigial rear seats, and a nicely balanced and low boxer engine. If they do turbocharge that platform with STI-grade horsepower, they would have a Miata beater, in terms of power performance, if maybe not quite as pure in handling, but offered both as coupe and convertible that way. Much lighter than the Mustang convertible, and Genesis Coupe doesn't offer a convertible. A few days ago, maybe a week or so, Autoblog showed a dealer cutting the tops off of a few 2011 WRX STI 4-doors... and it was pretty pointless, and hideous-looking as it was. I'll keep my AWD cars with a hard roof, and my sunny-day 3-season convertible with RWD. |
03-07-2011, 06:43 PM | #1112 |
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What I do wish Subaru would do, would be to release a halo trimline across most of the brand. A bit of a showcase for Subaru AWD performance potential (and a bit of fun for the RWD car, too...)
Tuned By STI, or tS as shorthand, would be a great marketing tool for that, that Subaru has already started. They already have the EJ257 turbo 4, and the 2010 Legacy GT's front-mount layout that could be tuned up to that, if Subaru wished to. They could build 300-350hp tuned EZ36 with Valvematic valve-lift in addition to AVCS valve timing adjustments. Maybe D-4 hybrid port and direct injection, as well. The engine could be as strong as Ford, Nissan, or Hyundai, maybe even Porsche NA 6-cylinder engines between 3.5 and 3.9 liters. STI-grade gearbox with specific gearing for each engine's characteristics, and DCCD. Possibly tie DCCD into the SI-Drive system. Possibly a torque-vectoring and torque-biasing rear differential. They could add traction-control based individual wheel braking and ABS wheel speed sensor signals and a yaw sensor, with a torsen or helical type limited slip, so that the inboard brake can provide leverage for the torsen to apply more of the input torque to the outboard wheel, and you have torque vectoring. no additional electronically controlled clutches are really required.Maybe a helical front diff, too, like S204 had. Torque vectoring on the rear axle in addition to a variable torque bias on the center differential, could help mitigate a bit of the understeer mantra that people refer to when talking about necessarily front-engined AWD Subaru. Real top-shelf AWD hardware to show off what Subaru is capable of building and putting on the market. Automated gearbox technology has come a very long way. Subaru could possibly offer an automated version of the above manual gearbox, perhaps with Xtrac's instant-shift system, as a 2-pedal computer-controlled gearbox option that isn't slower and worse than a manual gearbox. Gearbox control profiles could be tied to SI-Drive as well. Brembo brakes with 5x114 hubs. BBS or other light and strong wheels. Bilstein magneto-rheological dampers with the control profiles integrated into SI-drive. let Impreza-based lineup upgrade be the turbo 4 platform, and the Legacy/Outback/Tribeca upgrade be the H6 based platform, with both platforms having base economy NA H4 models with the FB20 for Impreza, and FB25 for Forester, Legacy and Outback base models. Offer those above specs as the next gen Impreza STI Limited sedan and 5-door with a turbo 4 and the full option list. Non-limited with less amenities and lighter weight, but all the high-tech hardware. Sort of an R-spec configuration similar to the current STI. Offer the WRX/ Impreza GT model as the more affordable turbo option with 265hp, less expensive 6MT or 5EAT-SS, standard brakes and suspension, closer to the NA Impreza's price point and equipment levels. Offer the high-end tech as an Impreza-chassis-based coupe, as a special-model SVX successor GT coupe, with Legacy-grade amenities, and Tribeca-inspired, but driver-centric dash, with the turbo 4 and R-spec cloth and no luxuries. H6, Leather, and sunroof, and full amenities as LS-L/Limited package. No base NA 4-cylinder version of the Impreza coupe would be needed, as it would overlap the RWD FB20-NA coupe. The SVX successor coupe would be high-line AWD turbo or H6 only, and mostly structurally based on the next Impreza, with engine and amenities based on the Legacy/Tribeca lineups. Sort of like the Benz E-coupe, which is a C-class chassis, with E-class amenities. Offer the high end tech as the next Legacy GT with the H6, (not turbo 4 so not to overlap the Impreza STI sedan), but still a sport package upgrade above the Legacy 3.6R, manual or automated gearbox. Offer the Forester STI as R-spec Turbo 4, or LT/Limited H6, similar to the above mentioned Impreza-based coupe, in both SUT or SUV bodystyles. Offer a limited edition sleek rally-fighter Outback Sport STI... basically a high-riding Impreza STI, to show Mini Countryman what compact/midsize AWD fun really is all about. No XT version, just base/limited NA H4, or special run of the STI-grade version for someone who wants less weight and size than the Forester version, but just as much rough-road capability. Possibly with similar technology, but shorter-travel fox shocks as the Ford SVT Raptor uses, or appropriate-travel magneto-rheological dampers to adjust between softer performance on soft surfaces, but lack of roll and sway on pavement. A real all-road/soft road burner. Offer a limited edition of the RWD subaru sport coupe with the STI-grade Turbo flat 4, and the manual or automated RWD gearbox, and torque-biasing rear diff, dampers, brakes, etc... without the AWD hardware. Maybe have a very small limited run of tS Tribecas (and/or Outbacks) with monochrome paint, lowered ride height, and sporty wheels and tires, with the H6 and automated gearbox standard. Something sporty for the dad who likes cars, and wants to haul the family with some performance edge. The Impreza, Legacy, SVX-successor, and Forester models would be regular production vehicles, produced based on demand, and produced every model year, even if they aren't built in as large of numbers as the base and mainstream models of the same cars. The Tribeca, Outback, Outback Sport, and RWD coupe upgrades would be limited production, only a few units, maybe every year if the demand supports it, maybe just after the base models cool off after their introduction, to re-spike a little market attention with a special model. Brand the high-performance variant of each vehicle similarly, as I said, with Tuned by STI or just STI badging depending on the model, and similar bold monochrome paint jobs and aggressive front fascia treatments. Make it a performance sub-set, like BMW ///M, or JCW, AMG, Jag or Volvo -R models, Caddy -V models, Chevy -SS models, etc. STI is already established for Subaru, and could go across the whole lineup, as full STI badging, or tuned by STI badging, depending on which would fit better. All with similar bold-color monochrome paint jobs and aggressive front fascia treatments. Gray or black interiors, no taupe. (taupe interiors are not sporty, and should be left as an option on the mainstream models) Black, gray, silver, white, bright-red, dark rich red, and rich medium blue would be a nice set of colors. Maybe copper orange or bright yellow, if there is really demand for it. Not brown, tan, cream-white, or dark green, red, or blues. Leave those to the mainstream cars. That seems like a pretty fair, and equitable road map for both mainstream buyers, and enthusiast buyers, with wide amortization of the hardware onto many models to help defray the costs, instead of laying the costs all on one enthusiast model to try and bear, while various enthusiasts want various options and body-styles, for various reasons. |
03-07-2011, 08:33 PM | #1113 |
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Why can't you have both in one vehicle? Convertible folding hard-tops are nothing new which on an AWD car would make you good for all seasons and Subaru would have an entire market to themselves! Think about it...
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03-07-2011, 09:54 PM | #1114 |
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Here's to hoping the Navigation in the 2012 Legacy is completely revamped.
Sat in a new 3.6R and was completely underwhelmed, now while I don't have to get one with Nav, I much prefer built in Oem navs then fiddling with separate units, but the $175 Garmin I bought, absolutely trounces both the functionality and usability of the unit in the Legacy/Outback. Not to mention the commands for speech control were a bit confusing, but I attributed some of that to not fully knowing the system. Also I coulda sworn there was more functionality in the units that used to come with the Spec'B's like generic readings of ECU data and the like, with this all you get is a calendar and calculator .... really? And DVD based system? I'm hoping 2012 bring us some HDD goodness. |
03-08-2011, 01:07 AM | #1115 | |
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Particularly with the Element's demise and Subaru's pro-dog brand positioning, the JDM CARGO AREA FAN for pets makes perfect sense to bring to the US. |
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03-08-2011, 07:07 AM | #1116 |
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Dear Subaru/Toyota, it would be really nice if the FT86 can take max high-g loads in slaloms and tight sweepers with a 1/4 tank of gas or less without suffering fuel starvation. Some cars need at least a 1/2 tank of gas to be able to autox, and that's added weight when it comes to racing, specifically autocross. Thank you.
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04-07-2011, 12:10 AM | #1117 |
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Please stop shorting U.S. with all of the things other countries get. Canada gets the WRX in Plasma Blue but we dont, only the STi? Not cool.
Offer options from the higher trim levels on all trim levels. I'd like to have the option of adding HID lights or heated mirrors and wiper blades to a base WRX without having to get the premium with the leather and moonroof and all that. Not cool again. If we have money (which you want), make all options available on all trim levels please, it doesn't cost you anything to make it available. Last edited by FromEvoToRS37; 04-18-2011 at 01:26 AM. |
04-20-2011, 05:04 PM | #1118 |
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2012 models: Discontinue the current navigation, and use the navigation from the 2012 Impreza in the 2012 WRX, STI, and Forester models. Thanks
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04-21-2011, 01:10 PM | #1119 |
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The only differences I see between an Impreza 5-dr Limited and a Sport Limited would be roof rails, body-colored rocker panels and a silver-painted grille. That's a pretty lame model differentiation, IMHO. I would want probably want a Sport simply for the roof rails, however, unless they're available as an add-on on the other trims. This seems to leave a nice spot for the cladded, high-riding XV concept in the lineup. Call it an Impreza Sport XV. Consider bringing a turbo version of it... Impreza Sport XVT. That would definitely add "fun" and bring more attention to the Impreza lineup, plus be a bit of a spiritual successor to the departed Outback XT. More outdoorsy than WRX, less SUV than Forester XT. |
04-25-2011, 05:35 PM | #1120 |
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Hi Subaru,
I just found a photo of this bad boy from a Tokyo auto show brochure from the late '90's. Its a Subaru 360 re-created for modern times, like the new MINI and the Fiat 500 (actually looks a lot like the 500!) Considering the huge popularity of the 500 and MINI, my suggestion is to BUILD IT PLEASE!!! |
04-25-2011, 08:20 PM | #1121 | |
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04-25-2011, 09:17 PM | #1122 |
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I like it, but still too small, IMHO. Makes me think of the LeCar. Subaru's G4e concept hit the sweet spot, size-wise, similar to Fit.
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05-05-2011, 10:59 PM | #1123 |
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Build a true Sport Wagon/Estate
I want a people mover with some guts!
Subaru has all of the elements to build a world-class sport wagon, and bring it to the US. That Ts Legacy wagon from last year (Japan only) would be a good start. Audi, BMW, VW, Acura, Cadillac and Dodge ALL make fast, classy wagons for the US, and Subie could easily compete on power, quality and cost with those marques. Turbo-charging an Outback is not the same--we need the lower center of gravity and the wagon-esque style of the Legacy to do this right. You wouldn't need to do too much that was new--just pull together what you already have. Put in the 2.5L turbo from the WRX and/or STi, the 6-speed adjustable STi transmission and those Ts suspension bits...and you'd have a winner. |
05-13-2011, 07:58 PM | #1124 |
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Three major issues:
PAINT: fix the process..it sucks obviously HID: HID headlights STANDARD for all WRX and STi model trims..we pay good money for the cars..it should be STANDARD equipment for $25,000+ 5 spd TRANSMISSION: make it tough..instead of it being made out of glass Thanks |
05-13-2011, 09:38 PM | #1125 |
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True all-weather packaging needs to be standard on all Subaru models. You know for a fact that most of your sales are at places that have snow or just aren't warm/hot year round. When I say "true" I mean seats should cool down, too. Limited trims should have rear passenger all-weather as well.
All newly purchased Subarus should come with a key chain with the Subaru logo on one side and their car model name on the other. Just do it. Sunroof/moonroof should either be a factory-installed option for pre-orders or you need to find a way to make them optional for pretty much any model. NAV should not be almost $2,000. If you're so bent on being a company that concerns itself with safety (which I very much appreciate, btw) then you should have side mirror turn signals on each model and they should be able to fold. Along that same thought of safety, all headlights should be adjustable. It's just considerate (and, yes, I do actually adjust my headlights, even when I'm behind someone for longer than 30 seconds). +1 on the paint job. Just add a thicker coat of that first or second layer before that final layer and you'll be good. If you raise the price $500 or so for the next model and state that your paint jobs are no longer trash then we'll call it even. Thanks! |
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