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10-31-2012, 02:59 PM | #26 |
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And you've apparently spent way to little time studying what lean manufacturing is.
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10-31-2012, 03:16 PM | #27 |
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all i know is that my 91 civic had less rattles at 90k miles than my 2010 does at 24k miles.
Also I know that i will NEVER buy another new honda as long as their build quality is what it is!! that is all I KNOW! LOL |
10-31-2012, 09:39 PM | #28 | |
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11-01-2012, 09:39 AM | #29 |
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I don't think "better" is the right word. The K24A2 has the potential to make more power because it has more displacement, not because it's inherently "better" than a K20A2 (RSX) or K20Z3 (8th Civic Si). The K24Z7 lost Vtec on the exhaust cam and gained an exhaust manifold integrated into the cylinder head (a-la R18) which prevents use of a proper header for exhaust pulse tuning. Both changes make the old K20Z3 inherently "better" as a performance engine.
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11-01-2012, 09:43 AM | #30 | |
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Did you by chance take some interior bits out to install a stereo? I ask because that's what I'm about to do. The stock stereo is the single most disappointing thing about the car. It's pathetic. |
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11-01-2012, 10:58 AM | #31 |
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^^^^^^^Ive seviced in and performed new check in on just about every Honda on our lot....and if yours isnt rattling from somewhere......you are prolly the only one in the world without a complaint lol
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11-01-2012, 01:50 PM | #32 | |
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Best built car that I've owned yet. |
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11-01-2012, 03:07 PM | #33 |
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My brother abuses the absolute **** out of his 07, I can't think of a single issue he's had with it.
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11-05-2012, 01:57 PM | #34 |
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Pic's of changes
Autoblog: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/05/r...-civic-caught/
That's it? You may be expecting something a lot more heroic for the 2013 Emergency Refresh of the Honda Civic, but from what we can make out in these new spy photos, the changes are more detail than drastic. It looks like the taillamps, front grille and headlamps are the most drastic changes, and the front fascia and trunklid have also been given attention. The interior is probably more important than any nips or tucks done outside. To get a good look at that, we're going to have to wait until the refreshed Civic hits dealer lots, reportedly just a couple weeks away. In any case, consumers will probably (and not without good reason) go on predictably banking on the Civic as a paragon of automotive virtue, regardless of whether auto critics love or hate the changes Honda has wrought. |
11-05-2012, 02:04 PM | #35 |
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Yeah, just saw the post on autoblog. It's nothing surprising. They just brought the asian-model spec sheetmeteal over here and mostly improved the interior. We were all hoping for more, but I think deep down we all knew this would be it.
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11-06-2012, 09:33 AM | #36 | |
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11-07-2012, 08:31 PM | #37 |
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Unrealistic expectations aside, I couldn't be more underwhelmed.
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11-08-2012, 12:33 AM | #38 |
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And not one **** was given. This will not sway anybody, the changes are so minimal. It will still sell fine, but they better do something more drastic for the Si, it's really lame.
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11-08-2012, 09:50 AM | #39 |
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What are you two on about? The changes that would really matter wouldn't show up in spy photos of a test mule. Honda announced last year that they would have an entirely new lineup of direct injected engines. It's possible that the 2013 Civic is getting the new engines, CVT trans and (oh god, please) a 6sp manual for the non-Si. Combine new engines and transmissions with a better dashboard and a few other interior bits and they've done a very substantial upgrade. The exterior tweaking would just be to provide some visual differentiation.
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11-08-2012, 10:33 AM | #40 |
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Yup.. this wasn't supposed to be a sheetmetal refresh.
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11-08-2012, 12:40 PM | #41 | |
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11-08-2012, 01:07 PM | #42 |
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The civic is a boring car. Honda can't fix all of their problems overnight.
The new Accord is a good indicator that they're putting in the effort. |
11-12-2012, 09:17 AM | #43 |
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