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10-23-2013, 12:32 PM | #1351 |
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10-23-2013, 01:09 PM | #1352 |
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Hey, man. I've got big ideas. You just want to knock them down and tear it apart!
Ok, what are these ideas? You can't even understand, brah. Why am I wasting my time with you? I could have this street legal F1 car built any day now! It's been a while, how is it going? You haters! Get on my level. |
10-23-2013, 01:25 PM | #1353 |
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So I hear there's an F1 race this weekend...
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You're in the wrong thread for that.
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10-23-2013, 04:06 PM | #1355 | |
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10-23-2013, 04:37 PM | #1358 |
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Interesting article + Thoughts On Euro F3
Thank you for posting that article. (Till last year, I had a subscription to Autosport and I do miss their analysis articles.)
The response seen here in this forum to STR choosing Kvyat for 2014 was pretty interesting. I've been following Euro F3 for a few seasons now because if one examines the current grid of F1, many of them came out of Euro F3, or British F3. Currently, 16 of the 22 F1 drivers came through F3, and the majority via Euro F3:
This season Euro F3 is much easier to follow. All the races are available on Youtube to watch for free, as well as brief race summary videos as well. Candidly, I tend to follow it via print, (news articles and twitter), versus video however. Back on topic, this season in Euro F3 has seen some good talent rise to the top. In particular, there is a kid named Raffaele Marciello who won the championship after finishing 3rd last season. Initially, he fought against another strong talent named Pascal Wehrlein. But Wehrlein picked up a DTM ride for this season and so only raced the first meeting of this F3 season (which = 3 races). There is an amazing kid named Felix Rosenqvist who really stood out, and finished 2nd in points this season. There is a young brit named Alex Lynn who purposely chose Euro F3 to learn how to work with European engineers and he stood out and finished 3rd in the championship. In to this competitive environment, for Kvyat to come in a for a few races, grab poles and win a race against Marciello and Rosenqvist was incredible. It showed how he was able to learn and quickly adapt to a car, and a series that he was not familiar with, and win. But I don't doubt that the fact that he is also a Russian helped STR's decision. The commercial aspect is part of racing. |
10-24-2013, 02:39 AM | #1359 | |
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rumor: Williams signed Massa for five years, Maldonado leaving Williams
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10-24-2013, 04:51 AM | #1360 |
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Absolutely.. At the expense of another young promissing driver, that has nothing but terrific (specially since he joined Red Bull Junior Team midway through last year).
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10-24-2013, 08:38 AM | #1361 | |
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So much for not returning to F1 unless he is in a contending car. Williams must be getting a ton of that Brazilian money. |
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10-24-2013, 11:03 AM | #1362 | |
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There wasn't this much uproar when Sauber announced they were signing that 17 year old. Why does anyone care so much about who the #2 is at STR? Was da Costa the next racing Jesus or something? Ppl that know far more than us didn't think so. |
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10-24-2013, 11:05 AM | #1363 |
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Massa must think a lot like Rubens. Years in a top car to prove himself, then off to the back of the grid for a few more fruitless years. Hell, not a bad gig if you can get is I suppose.
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10-24-2013, 04:54 PM | #1364 | |
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But how many of those guys jumped straight from F3 to F1? No one is saying F3 is a bad series, it's just a lower step on the ladder to F1 |
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10-24-2013, 05:25 PM | #1365 |
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Apart from Raikkonen I can't think of any other driver that has jumped into F1 so quickly. But Raikkonen is a complete anomaly/freak who most teams/drivers/FIA didn't want to let race at first. So it's possible this kid could be like that, but I doubt it.
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Two Different Ways To Groom A Young F1 Driver
I think it is a great question, is Kvyat too inexperienced for F1?
There was an interesting Reuters article today from the F1 paddock with some good answers. Perhaps, not surprisingly, two McLaren drivers (one current and one former) seemed to both agree that the jump from F3 to F1 is likely to be overwhelming: Quote:
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Ferrari's opinion is not stated in the article, but note that this year's winner of the Euro F3 championship "Lello" Raffaele Marciello, a member of Ferrari's Driver Academy program went straight in to testing for two different WSR (World Series by Renault) teams to line up his 2014 ride two days after he won the Euro F3 title (earlier this week). Lello was never part of any F1 paddock rumor for a seat. Another important member of the Ferrari Driver Academy is Jules Bianchi, who did two seasons of GP2, then 1 season of WSR, after he had won the Euro F3 championship. A recent member of the FDA, Sergio Perez, did 2 seasons of GP2 after British F3. It appears that Ferrari are conservative in how they groom their young drivers. Button described the underlying reasons best for this conservative methodology, "...you could learn a lot more about slicks and wings... and learn a lot more of the circuits you race on, and the way an F1 team goes racing... it is a real shock for someone at 19, who has to also learn to drive an F1 car and have to work with a KERS (energy recovery) power unit, which is completely new and alien to most of us." So what would be the reason why Helmut Marko and Red Bull would opt to toss a 19yo with only GP3 and F3 experience now in to the high pressure, huge learning curve world of F1? In an article by Pablo Elizade of Autosport, Helmut Marko said: Quote:
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We see two different ways to help an inexperienced driver adjust to being an F1 driver... Two to three seasons in WSR or GP2 (the McLaren & Ferrari way), or (the Red Bull way) toss them into the deep end and give them two to three seasons in a (lessor) F1 car. |
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The Massa / Williams Story
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Massa has a very good manager, (Nicolas Todt). Also, it's been rumored that Bernie / FOM are very keen to have a Brazilian driver on the grid next season, and Massa is the only Brazilian. This gives Massa and Todt an advantage in being able to grab any sponsors who are interested in the Brazilian market. There are also rumors that FOM / Bernie can make it profitable for a team to employ Massa as driver, (not sure if there's any truth to that). The reality of the 2014 driver market is that Massa is fortunate that Venezuela's political / economic changes are likely to drop Maldonado out of Williams which enables its availability to Massa. If we look at better seats than Williams for Massa, here is what we find:
That leaves the back of the grid, which this season includes (sadly) Williams. But Williams are decent sized, and picked up Pat Symonds at Tech Director. (Nowhere to go but up!) Marussia will run a Ferrari engine, but one can imagine that Massa may choose to race outside of F1 before filling a Marussia or Caterham seat. One very interesting additional note is that Nicolas Todt is also Pastor Maldonado's manager. The Williams team let loose with some unattributed but nasty comments about Maldonado after Suzuka. So the cynic would note that the trip to Venezuela by Claire Williams and lawyers must have been educational. If I bet money, I'd bet a dollar that Maldonado won't be at Williams in 2014. But he might end up (poor but fast) at Force India instead. Note that James Calado is doing another FP1 here at India for FIF1 in di Resta's seat, and that Calado is managed by Todt also. |
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Nice post, thanks.
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Massa has something like 6 or 7m in brazilian sponsorship lined up.
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10-25-2013, 06:52 PM | #1372 | |
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Maldonado's Wanderings...
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Instead, Eric Boullier has presented three other drivers for 2014 to his board. They are Grosjean, Hulkenberg, and if they can't get Hulkenberg, then Maldonado. Maldonado is quick. Perhaps he would carry the big PDVSA dollars with him (which Lotus would need if the Quantum money fails to show). |
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