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Old 04-22-2004, 05:15 PM   #1
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Default TurboXS FMIC Fitment Issuse

Hey guys,
Well I installed my front mount last August and have just never really cared about this fitment issue, but now it is starting to bug me.
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The silicon hose is digging into the oil cap and is starting to put a sizable cut into the hose...

Anyone else have this problem?

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Old 04-22-2004, 06:12 PM   #2
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I do.. it sucks. I just pushed the pipe down a little lower and clamped it there. I tried to put another hose clamp in there to sorta block the rubbing but that doesn't help..

Another thing, on that same silicone hose, where it wraps down, check where the hose touches the valve cover. There is a bolt there and it's rubbing against the hose as well... I put a hose clamp there to block that one off and that worked out pretty good.

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Old 04-22-2004, 07:03 PM   #3
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Mine is touching the valve cover, I did not notice a bolt there though...
Has TurboXS looked into fixing either of these issuses or anything?

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Old 04-22-2004, 07:06 PM   #4
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Has TurboXS looked into fixing either of these issuses or anything?

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That is probally the reason TXS took their name off of the IC
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Old 04-22-2004, 07:08 PM   #5
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TurboXS is usually pretty good about service and stuff related to this. It's frustrating that they can't just make the aluminum pipe 1 inch longer... That would probabaly solve everything.

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Old 04-22-2004, 07:41 PM   #6
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same with the fender well problem
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Old 04-22-2004, 07:43 PM   #7
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I have seen the new version of the TXS. I don't think they actually revised it as "version 2", but instead of the silicone hose that wraps up there.. metal goes all the way down past the valve cover, then it's silicone, and then on the other side where the silicone hose runs through the stock silencer location, it's metal piping all the way down there as well. So if anything it'll just stratch the polish instead of stratch a hole in the pipe. I wonder if TXS would actually warranty something like that.. because I have a hole in that hose as well.
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Old 04-22-2004, 08:14 PM   #8
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Hmm I didn't know they even changed to pipes like that...
Maybe they will replace the hoses on setups where they are messed up, such as ours...

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Old 04-22-2004, 09:29 PM   #9
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I have that same exact problem. What bugs me wors is that the same exact pipe (metal part) rubs against the hood when I shut the hood, leaving a nice big worn spot on the pipe.

Those of you who have the TXS fmic- did you put that pipe under the rubber fuel lines or over it?

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Old 04-22-2004, 11:32 PM   #10
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I have that same exact problem. What bugs me wors is that the same exact pipe (metal part) rubs against the hood when I shut the hood, leaving a nice big worn spot on the pipe.

Those of you who have the TXS fmic- did you put that pipe under the rubber fuel lines or over it?

Rick
I put it over it.. and I have the same problems as you. I have two spots on that pipe where it comes in contact with the hood. The ONLY way to solve that is to get a smaller washer fluid reservoir and rotate the the little metal peice that holds that pipe onto the intake manifold. Right now the peice sits like an backwards " L ", with the small peice bolted to the intake. On my friend's STi, whose washer fluid tank is smaller, he has it like this: "___| " with long part bolted to the intake. Basically this takes the pipe and forces it down about half a inch, and over about an inch.. which in turn will rub against your tank. Hence.. STi's have a smaller tank.. and he has no rubbage at all.

I've just been too lazy to do anything about it, haha.

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Old 04-22-2004, 11:35 PM   #11
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These list is getting logner and longer. Maybe a dr500 or dr650 needs to go on order and ill sell this one...

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Old 04-23-2004, 12:23 AM   #12
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Damn I never new all these issues about TXS FMIC kits, Or should I say Hyperflow. Dont blame TXS for it HYPERFlow are the ones who designed the kit. Damn Which FMIC should I get now?
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Old 04-23-2004, 01:17 AM   #13
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The new TXS FMIC is a much better design. The only thing is that rubbing of the pipe against the hood but you can fix that as mentioned above.

As far as the DR500 goes, it's badass and all, but it comes with crappy, cheap rubber hoses that connect the turbo outlet to the intercooler pipe, and that charge pipe on the hot side where it goes down into the fender also has the cheap hose. It is very soft and think. Find someone who has one and feel it. A friend of mine's DR500 ripped a huge hole about 4 inches long through one of those hoses..
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Old 04-23-2004, 05:10 AM   #14
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And the coating they use on thier piping flakes off really easily.

Anyone know if we can buy just the v2 piping?
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Old 04-23-2004, 09:23 AM   #15
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If you look on TXS site they dont sell there FMIC kit anymore. Unless I missed it.

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Old 04-23-2004, 09:38 AM   #16
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Damn I just got my VF34 and I was going to order the TurboXS FMIC before I read this thread...
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Old 04-23-2004, 09:40 AM   #17
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I say go with a APS DR 500! Think thats what I might do.

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Old 04-23-2004, 10:54 AM   #18
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Well honestly I would personally like to have my piping rub than deal with thin, cheap hoses.. although you can replace them, they bend at about a 70 deg angle twice so you'd really have to get something custom. The TXS hoses are VERY thick. And even though it's rubbing.. it still hasn't tore all the way through the hose.
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Well honestly I would personally like to have my piping rub than deal with thin, cheap hoses.. although you can replace them, they bend at about a 70 deg angle twice so you'd really have to get something custom. The TXS hoses are VERY thick. And even though it's rubbing.. it still hasn't tore all the way through the hose.
This is true, the silicon hoses on the TXS FMIC are very beefy.
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Old 04-23-2004, 02:45 PM   #20
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The hoses on the APS DR500 are cheaper looking than the Hyperflow/TurboXS hoses but they are not thin, mine are almost a 1/4" thick. Also there is far less soft tubing (silicon) on the APS kit and more hard line plumbing.

And as far as the pipes coating flaking off, this was fixed earlier this year, I have had no problems with my hoses or the coating on mine.

Also when comparing quality between APS and Hyperflow, there really is no comparison, APS wins hands down.

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[b]Also when comparing quality between APS and Hyperflow, there really is no comparison, APS wins hands down.
B]
How so? Other than a larger core, they seem very similar in fittment issues to me...
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Old 04-23-2004, 05:46 PM   #22
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Guys I have a little bit of information here for you.

1. If you have this problem please contact me directly and I will contact Hyperflow on your behalf to attempt to get you a replacement set of hoses or possibly their updated pipe set. I don't have any control over what they say, but I’ll do my best to see this resolved for you.

2. I have one set of hoses here in the shop that I’d like to offer to the customer that started this thread. Please contact me directly.

3. We have dissolved our relationship with Hyperflow and have decided to venture into the intercooler market ourselves. This gives us a little more say in the design, testing and quality control of each intercooler we produce.

One of the first changes we made was to move to an all pipe design. It is by far a better solution then having to worry about a hose rubbing though. We also noted the fitment problems that were evident in the hyperflow design and have changed the pipe routing so that this will not be an issue on our new kit.

If hyperflow is less then co-operative with replacing your hose kits, I’ll see what I can do about getting you our new pipe kit and whatever adaptors needed to attach it to the hyperflow core. There will be some small cost here, but I’ll do it as inexpensively as possible. I need to have a chat with the guys in AUS about this, but if you’ll contact me directly, I’ll see what I can do.

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My friend Dmitry posted about this many times in the past...
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yes i have... turboxs realy dropped the ball when they went with hyperflow. and as far as i can tell they will not support you in any way to help you with this. what i can say is try sliding the hose down so its no longer touching the pipe. i have about 5 fitment issues with mine so i have given up and in teh future will be getting custom pipes made..
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yes i have... turboxs realy dropped the ball when they went with hyperflow. and as far as i can tell they will not support you in any way to help you with this. what i can say is try sliding the hose down so its no longer touching the pipe. i have about 5 fitment issues with mine so i have given up and in teh future will be getting custom pipes made..


If you will contact me as per my post I’ll add you to the list of people I am trying to get new pipes for from hyperflow.

If that doesn't work, I’ll offer you a set of our new pipes as inexpensively as possible (assuming I can get the proper adaptor to make them fit the hyperflow core).

When it was one person posting they had a problem and a lot of other people saying that they didn’t I assumed your problem was an installation issue, a weird car, or something else along those lines.

What I can say now is that hyperflow was aware enough of the fitment issues to revise their pipe design. The silicone they use is made by Samco. It’s very good stuff and is unlikely to tear all the way though, but clearly there are problems.

Previously I was at the mercy of Hyperflow to replace your products. We now have the ability to do the pipes ourselves and if they won’t replace your product I’ll make an effort to set your intercooler system right. I can’t make any promises for Hyperflow, but pending some further investigation with our guys in AUS I think we can come up with something.


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