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02-04-2011, 09:01 AM | #1 | |
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2012 Lexus LFA launch control technique revealed
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02-04-2011, 11:35 AM | #2 | |
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02-04-2011, 12:23 PM | #3 |
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^The number of times the launch control feature can be used is limited, so people have to check with their dealership to see how many they have left?
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02-04-2011, 12:41 PM | #4 |
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02-06-2011, 11:54 AM | #5 |
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Ha.. that's interesting. I'm going to ask my father if he knows any more details on this, since he sells for Lexus.
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02-04-2011, 07:23 PM | #6 |
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And the LFA continues to be the biggest ripoff in the automotive world.
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02-05-2011, 02:46 AM | #7 |
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02-05-2011, 02:54 PM | #9 | |
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Hint: It's the cheapest car of its construction EVER made. The performance/$$$ of any true exotic is crap compared to today's best sports cars. Get over it. Car isn't about the numbers, like any other car in that class. |
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02-06-2011, 03:13 PM | #10 | |
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Remember how people used to talk about how the first Mustang GT500 from 4-5 years ago was the least expensive car with 500 hp? It was also the slowest car with 500 hp, too. Or we can also talk about how the Chrysler Sebring was the least expensive convertible offered in the U.S., but that doesn't mean it's the best choice for you. Maybe it's not about numbers, but do you think Ferrari, Lamborghini or McLaren would've settled for being THAT far behind their competition's performance with a new offering? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to own an LFA (and not the type of owning you could do to it with a GT-R either), as I've seen them in person on two occasions, and it's a great car. So I'm not hating on it. But again, the car isn't marketed toward me (or the majority of everyone here), but that's just my opinion. |
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02-04-2011, 07:34 PM | #11 |
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I guess Lexus learned a thing or two from the Nissan guys.
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02-04-2011, 11:24 PM | #12 | |
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02-05-2011, 09:44 AM | #13 | |
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It isn't a mass production car. The price they charge doesn't matter as far as "biggest ripoff" when they are making the car in extremely limited quantities, by hand, and only made to order. Hell, they've all been claimed as far as I know, so it doesn't matter how much it costs. Last edited by quentinberg007; 02-05-2011 at 09:55 AM. |
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02-04-2011, 09:12 PM | #14 |
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thats dumb... limited amount of launches??
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02-05-2011, 12:23 PM | #15 |
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are you ****ting me? That's brilliant. Sometimes you have to save people from themselves. This isn't a bugeye. You can't just get a used tranny off an internet forum if something breaks. The engineers probably tested how much abuse the LFA drivetrain can take, then set a maximum number of launches significantly below that. I'm sure some aftermarket software will be able to reset the counter if you really feel the need to repeatedly abuse your expensive low production vehicle.
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02-05-2011, 09:19 AM | #16 |
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No doubt, I would pick the LFA over many other cars simply because of the sound alone and stellar quality. Magazine racers please go
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02-05-2011, 09:42 AM | #17 |
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02-05-2011, 10:59 AM | #19 |
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02-05-2011, 01:40 PM | #20 |
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Porsche manages to have a better gearbox that has unlimited warrantied launches.
Quite pathetic, really. This car would have been amazing 10 years ago, now? Notsomuch. |
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02-06-2011, 12:11 AM | #22 | |
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This car is $100k cheaper than a McLaren SLR. And is faster. And, like Rex8 said, the cheapest car ever made with a carbon monocoque. Plus a lot of the techniques used to weave the carbon fiber are brand new and pioneered by Toyota just for the LFA, with inevitable trickle-down to less expensive cars as time wears on. The engineers at Lexus decided against a dual-clutch unit because they felt the gear change was too smooth, and felt too much like an automatic. Ironic, considering the paucity of clutch pedal-equipped cars from Lexus. But shows that they're not just hung up on lap times - there's more to an exotic than just the quickest lap. Just because Porsche hasn't taken negative publicity for launch control with their PDK gearbox doesn't mean they'll warranty it against any hoonassery their buyers subject them to. Just means that the people who've bought them are well-heeled enough to fix the damages or haven't been as inclined to beat the tar out of their gearboxes from day 1 the way GT-R owners have. The car is undeniably expensive, but it's far from pathetic, when you consider the whole package. The engine is a masterpiece, and the chassis is cutting edge. You could hardly call it slow (and the fact that there are exotics that are just as fast that cost $100k less is immaterial at this price point). Plus, you get the fit and finish, materials quality, and some attention to comfort you'd expect from a Lexus, which is a step up from any of its Italian competition. If I were richer than God and looking for a new exotic, I probably wouldn't buy the LFA, but that doesn't mean I can't respect the technology and insane attention to detail that went into its creation, or downplay the reasons it costs what it does just because I could buy a loaded Gallardo for considerably less. |
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02-06-2011, 03:55 AM | #23 | |
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The reason a dual-clutch transmission is smoother is because single clutch automated manuals need to interrupt the power while they're shifting. You could do exactly the same thing (interrupt the power) with a dual clutch transmission if you wanted more jerky shifts. And since when are 0.5 secs periods with no power between gears considered sporty? You're not accelerating and you unsettle the car. This car has a single clutch AMT because: a) old farts who buy exotics don't drive manuals b) developing a dual clutch transmission is expensive 'The engineers felt it was too smooth' is pure marketing spin, it was the accountants who felt that a single clutch transmission was good enough. |
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02-06-2011, 09:25 AM | #24 | |
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According to http://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/auto.../straight-talk, the dude in charge tried a DCT, didn't think it fit the character of the car, and ditched it. And 200ms breaks in power can be considered sporty if you're looking for "positive shift feel" (woo, marketing buzzwords!) rather than out-and-out speed. Seems bassackwards to not optimize a $350,000+ supercar for speed at all costs, but the simple truth is very few hypercars spend much, if any, time on the track, so being fast enough to brag about, with some unique touches (like the insanely revvy V10), and a unique driving experience is what will attract buyers. That, plus exclusivity. |
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02-06-2011, 09:43 AM | #25 | |
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Optimizing for all out speed, would rob the car of some personality. It needs to feel a bit raw, a bit unnerving,etc. We often find ourselves loving the people with the most flaws. It is in our character. It is the hints of flaws that form a person into a unique individual. Same with cars. It is their inherent flaws that endear them to us. |
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