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02-05-2006, 10:32 PM | #1 |
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PDX Tuning Protune OTS maps vs. Cobb Stage 2 93 Octane!
Well I have some datalogs comparing the cobb stage 2 93 octane map vs. the over the shelf map I have recieved from PDX tuning and wanted to know if some of the tuning gurus could take a look at these ecuexplorer datalogs and tell me a. which one is safer and b. which one is making more power.
The butt dyno seems to notice holding a lower boost level for longer periods of time with the pdx tune and achieving a shorter more powerful boost with the cobb map. Any help is greatly appreciated. Cobb stage 2 ECUexplorer datalog 3rd gear pull PDX Tuning ECUexplorer datalog 3rd gear pull Can someone that knows a lot about tuning please take a look at this and give me some feedback.
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02-05-2006, 10:59 PM | #2 |
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Does one feel better than the other?
The ECU chooses to run the same timing with both maps, both maps run the same timing, both run the same air flow. You do not have wide band data so there is no way to say which is safer than the other. It looks like both are working well on your car, and you should run which ever one feels better to you. Jarrad |
02-05-2006, 11:18 PM | #3 |
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Jarrad check my email. Huuuge difference with your maps it runs great. I didnt know the base map was the low boost map and that datalog is of your low boost map. After loading my realtime map it makes a world of difference. Very smooth and a tremendous amount of power and no negative knock values at high rpms. I can provide you guys with a realtime map datalog run in 3rd gear if you want to make a flowchart out of it or something.
I will eventually get a tactrix cable so I can do an eginuity readout showing target boost and wastegate duty cycles with your maps vs. the cobb stage 2 93 octane. Last edited by kinada423; 02-05-2006 at 11:37 PM. |
02-05-2006, 11:49 PM | #4 |
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I will get your e-mail when I get to the office tomorrow, glad to hear you like the maps.
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02-06-2006, 12:59 PM | #5 |
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From what I can see the PDX maps seem to be running higher positive KC values... which from my findings on my car indicates a more stable map. From the various logs I've seen people with very high positive KC values seem to like their maps better. Some tuners touch both the correction values and the base timing on the maps they build while others just touch the base timing. I believe Cobb only modifies the base timing values and leaves the KC maps alone. Cobb also has a different idea behind their tuning... (high timing with leaner A/F ratios... which don't always perform best for everyone.)
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02-06-2006, 04:39 PM | #6 |
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KC maps?
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02-06-2006, 06:09 PM | #7 |
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I want to buy these maps but every time I call PDX i get a machine?.
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02-06-2006, 06:12 PM | #8 | |
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02-06-2006, 07:38 PM | #9 |
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From what I understand they are swamped with work. This happens when you get an overnight community claim to fame and you got every accessport owner that doesn't live near a protuner calling them up. Just bear with them. I did and I am happy with the results.
I mean come on...if you order a part online it takes a few days to get there right |
02-06-2006, 08:13 PM | #10 | |
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To better handle and organize Accessport map upgrades we have just added an online map order form to our website front page. http://www.pdxtuning.com/mapupgrade.htm However, for those with specific questions we are happy to communicate by phone or email. If the phone does not work try our generic email address. [email protected] Several persons monitor this email account over the course of the day so your chances of a timely response are quite good. Best regards Bailey - PDXT |
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02-06-2006, 08:18 PM | #11 | |
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I've watched these data values stream by dozens of times on the dyno..... Looks good What kind of fuel do you use? Bailey - PDXT |
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02-06-2006, 08:49 PM | #12 | |
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02-06-2006, 09:11 PM | #13 |
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sorry to hijack...but PDX do you have have OTS tunes for the 06 model wrx's yet?
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02-07-2006, 12:49 AM | #14 | |
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02-07-2006, 12:08 PM | #15 |
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:subscribed: I need 02 Stage 2 and a STX legal map. I'll check out the link above.
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02-07-2006, 12:21 PM | #16 |
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I'm still waiting on Jarrad to get back to me on my FXT.
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02-07-2006, 01:41 PM | #17 |
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+1. I left am message and still waiting to hear back.
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02-07-2006, 10:00 PM | #18 |
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I just stumbled onto this thread... very interesting stuff.
Does anyone know to what extent they tune? Fuel,timing,Boost,AVCS, etc... |
02-08-2006, 01:10 PM | #19 |
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I'm interested as well
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02-08-2006, 01:27 PM | #20 |
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Jarrad says I need a wideband for them to properly do mine. =( It seems if you have a weird setup that isn't common, a live tuner would still be best. But for people with common setups I guess this is still good.
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02-08-2006, 01:57 PM | #21 | |
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02-08-2006, 09:35 PM | #23 |
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$150...
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02-09-2006, 07:20 PM | #24 |
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I also have PDX on my stage 2 WRX equipped with Borla header. Lack of torque experienced with header is no longer a problem with the new map. I highly recommend them.
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02-10-2006, 07:58 AM | #25 | |
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