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02-23-2013, 11:12 PM | #76 |
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02-23-2013, 11:21 PM | #77 | |
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I am really trying, but man right now that is a hard vehicle to love. I was hoping the new Cherokee was going to be a more affordable Grand Chereokee alternative, but it looks like I will be getting a '14 GC Ecodiesel... |
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02-23-2013, 11:22 PM | #78 |
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02-24-2013, 11:05 AM | #79 | |
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02-24-2013, 11:17 AM | #80 |
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My understanding is that the Patriot/Compass uses the CVT to get a "low range". Forester is a longitudinal drivetrain. Most transverse drivetrains send the power through the enclosed front differential first and then to the transfer case/center diff. I don't know of a single transverse mount drivetrain that has a true two speed transfer case.
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02-24-2013, 01:55 PM | #81 | |
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Thank you for your concerns over my financial situation, but all I said was I was hoping to see a more affordable alternative, a smaller GC essentially. I guess I know what Quentinberg007's hot button is now. Carry on... (and for anyone else that cares, it was verified by a Chysler employee on Jeepforums the white Cherokee is an alpha build Trailhawk) |
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02-24-2013, 02:50 PM | #82 |
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Ha, I don't care how you spend your money. The logic was a bit funny, IMO, because I don't see a cheap FWD based CUV doing much of the same job that you'd ask of a diesel SUV.
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02-24-2013, 03:01 PM | #83 |
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The Cherokee is a Liberty replacement, which makes it the next Jeep down from the GC. I wanted to see what they developed (was hoping for a true XJ style replacement or something closer to a mini GC), I am going to pass. You mad bro?
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02-24-2013, 03:32 PM | #84 |
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Liberty was actually a pretty competent vehicle off the pavement. It wasn't an original Cherokee, but it did pretty decent. I don't think this new Cherokee will be ready for more than the most basic soft road because of the drivetrain.
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02-24-2013, 03:38 PM | #85 | |
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The same thing happened with the WK2 supposedly (reduced travel), but I think the run-away sales of that platform has dictated this shift. That being said, the WK2 will hand this thing its butt offroad. |
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03-05-2013, 02:59 PM | #86 | |
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Incidentally, the alien/shark-eyes look is growing on me: http://i.imgur.com/ukaMbZ3.jpg The "faceless" back end is still odd: http://i.imgur.com/TUsTnaI.jpg |
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03-27-2013, 12:53 PM | #88 |
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What do they use to lock those planetary gearsets? Clutch packs, locking pawl?
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03-27-2013, 01:14 PM | #89 | |
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03-27-2013, 02:17 PM | #90 |
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It's ok design-wise. It's disappointing that the design looks more grocery getter than rugged. The interior is really nice though
Am I the only one disappointed by the torque ratings? 271 HP with 236 lb of torque. |
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03-27-2013, 02:27 PM | #92 |
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Looks like Dodge is up to their usuall antics again. Does this really surprise anyone? Remember the last generation of the Darango?
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03-27-2013, 02:27 PM | #93 |
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03-27-2013, 06:54 PM | #94 |
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I'd buy a Trailhawk, and I actually may depending on the Pentastar MPG ratings. I want a smaller SUV/Crossover to replace both the FJ and the RSX and drop down to one car. It doesn't seem like this is really all that bad of a compromise, but I'll reserve judgment until someone really puts one through its paces. Only thing left to see is cost. I'd bet probably slightly north of $30k.
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03-27-2013, 07:15 PM | #95 |
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It's a sexy beast. I'm not afraid to say it.
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03-27-2013, 07:18 PM | #96 | |
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03-27-2013, 10:31 PM | #97 |
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I agree, but there's nothing in that age/price range that's really compelling. If I were going to do that, it would probably be wisest to just continue on with the FJ.
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03-27-2013, 11:05 PM | #98 |
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You seem like you'd be a perfect candidate for a CPO 4Runner Trail Edition, no? My main gripe with it was the visibility, but since you already drive a FJ Cruiser that wouldn't be an issue at all.
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03-28-2013, 12:17 AM | #99 | |
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I'm looking for something with a decent tow rating and very good in bad weather that gets an mpg in the mid-upper 20s. I can't get a small car because of the winters around here- it just doesn't work out. Right now I live out in the sticks on top of a mountain, and my commute home is in the early morning which usually means that the roads are fairly unplowed near my house. My driveway is long and usually not plowed in the AM unless there's a lot of snow. The storm before last we got 6" of snow and I ended up getting stuck in the driveway, and I have a good set of studded snow tires. I've really enjoyed the convenience and reliability of the FJ and don't want to lose it, but I can't justify 18mpg on an 80 mile commute. I've driven it about 3 times since the beginning of January. It's definitely not worth it to keep it, but I can't rely on the RSX. Something like this seems to check all the boxes as long as its good, and not priced astronomically. So we'll see. |
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03-28-2013, 12:30 AM | #100 |
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A new Cherokee is probably cheaper than a CPO 4Runner. In fact I could pretty much guarantee that in CA before even knowing the MSRP of the Cherokee.
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