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Old 12-17-2009, 02:34 PM   #26
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AEM EMS, a killer tune, ported exhaust manifold, the biggest baddest fmic buschur racing makes, speed density setup, 3" exhaust, AMS lightweight brakes, MAP performance downpipe, and the driver mod
This is awsome, I still feel that one day ill do the same for my STi when it is like the early 90'd dsm's of today (old and paid for)

I manage to run 14 12.0's with my stock turbo STi, and car + driver weight came to be 3248 the last time weighed.

If I had 5k to blow and didnt care about the car as I do now (expensive and driven everyday), I could see 11.30's-11.40's in a stock turbo STi. Im talking every bolt on imaginable (for weight savings), breaks, severe weight reduction.

Id also do a built 5 speed. Yes, the 07 can do the 1/4 in 4th, but at 68-7200, where 20-40 whp is lost after 6500. With a 5 speed, Ill be in the power band the whole time.

I admire that evo's can go very fast for nothing, but I like challenges.


Oh yeah, SICKKKK looking car man!!
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:35 PM   #27
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What exactly have you done for losing weight?
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:36 PM   #28
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My weight reduction was posted on page 1.

Thanks, but yeah, keep in mind, it is easier to go faster in a straight line in an Evo, but it is not at all easy to go as fast as I did. It is still 4th in the world, we just did it all right
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:28 PM   #29
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My weight reduction was posted on page 1.

Thanks, but yeah, keep in mind, it is easier to go faster in a straight line in an Evo, but it is not at all easy to go as fast as I did. It is still 4th in the world, we just did it all right
Pssssst...if you edit your profile and upgrade from n00b settings this is still page 1 and will be for 50 posts .


And nice run...nice looking car. I love stock looking cars that are crazy fast.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:45 PM   #30
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11.715 is the fastest stock turbo Sti to date... I think it was roly... The evo stock turbo is a bit larger than stock Sti turbos though, correct me if I'm wrong..?
it is larger,the IX turbo flows around 40ish lbs a min.

but hey,you guys got the big ol' 2.5 compared to our baby lil 2.0
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:18 PM   #31
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it is larger,the IX turbo flows around 40ish lbs a min.

but hey,you guys got the big ol' 2.5 compared to our baby lil 2.0
I would rather have the 2.0 rev to 8,000 with the stock parts
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:18 PM   #32
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My weight reduction was posted on page 1.

Thanks, but yeah, keep in mind, it is easier to go faster in a straight line in an Evo, but it is not at all easy to go as fast as I did. It is still 4th in the world, we just did it all right
is this a GSR or an RS to start with?
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:19 PM   #33
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good stuff Mark !
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:20 PM   #34
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is this a GSR or an RS to start with?
Neither, it is just a base model 2003 Evolution with a sunroof and cloth interior.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:48 PM   #35
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Neither, it is just a base model 2003 Evolution with a sunroof and cloth interior.
man that thing is light good setup you got there, imagine it with a bigger turbo
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:10 PM   #36
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vf39 is a joke compared the 16g. Whats the STi record on a comparable turbo? ... it's no 11.0 but it should be closer than 11.7
xdrian went 10.8 @ 125 mph with an 18g, ~2750 lbs and ppg's.

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but hey,you guys got the big ol' 2.5 compared to our baby lil 2.0
displacement doesnt matter much power wise on FI cars. power comes from moving air, which comes from the turbo. turbo x will make 400whp on a 2.5L at 5000rpm and same turbox will make ~400whp on a 2L but at 5500rpm.

the larger displacement just gobbles the air faster.

just think of a 16g on a 5L mustang, the turbo would be out of air by 3500rpm.

i think if you ask any subaru owner that knows anything they would rather have a 2L with a TS 10.5cm 16g than a 2.5L with a whopping 33 lb/min vf39.
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:17 PM   #37
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xdrian went 10.8 @ 125 mph with an 18g, ~2750 lbs and ppg's.
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Lies it was full weight

How much power was Xdrian putting down with the 18G?
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:19 PM   #38
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Wow that's fast.. Sick evo fo sure
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:42 PM   #39
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EVO 9 turbo flows around 580cfm
40lb/min turbo

Op nice runs! knocking on 10's door!
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:44 PM   #40
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EVO 9 turbo flows around 580cfm
40lb/min turbo

Op nice runs! knocking on 10's door!
You're telling me! I wanted to go back, this was the last few days of the track before they closed, but I was slammed with other things going on. I could have taken a dump and lost enough weight to go 10's!
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:00 PM   #41
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Lies it was full weight

How much power was Xdrian putting down with the 18G?
come on juan....think about your question.

he's putting down the same exact power every other 18g can put out....

turbos arent magic. his 18g isnt making any more power than any other 18g.

just like all vf39's flow the same.

this is why when someone does something nutty on a turbo thats 0.5 second faster than everyone else i question the weight or nos. its simply impossible to magically squeeze that much more power out of a turbo than anyone else.

Just like seans 11.7, then 12.2-12.3's. that just screams sneaky pete. especially since he was claiming full weight.

people on here always say trap = power, thats not right.

Trap = Power/weight

here are some theoretical 18g p/w's for different weights, same power.

C power = power at the crank
C p/w = power/weight using crank hp since this is the way most people calculate it

FYI, a 0.19 p/w is porsche, lambo, ferrari territory. Veyron is 0.24 and a Saleen S7 is 0.25

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Power 	Cpower	Weight	P/W	C P/W
420	504	2700	0.1556	0.1867
420	504	3000	0.1400	0.1680
420	504	3150	0.1333	0.1600
420	504	3350	0.1254	0.1504
420	504	3600	0.1167	0.1400
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:05 PM   #42
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ya man redic 60. Stay outta the wall
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:11 PM   #43
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didnt curt brown run 10s w/ a gutted stock turbo evo like 5 years ago? either way, thats some accomplishment but i knew she had to be a jenny craig diet for those e/ts...
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come on juan....think about your question.

he's putting down the same exact power every other 18g can put out....

turbos arent magic. his 18g isnt making any more power than any other 18g.

Seriously IDK! when I see a thread that says 16G, 18G, and even 20G I don't even click on the thread .
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:32 PM   #45
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You're telling me! I wanted to go back, this was the last few days of the track before they closed, but I was slammed with other things going on. I could have taken a dump and lost enough weight to go 10's!
I went back to read your original post and noticed all those stock parts! 10's will be no problem with some minor changes at current weight. Do you have a dyno sheet? Great driving btw makes me wanna take my evo to the track
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:44 PM   #46
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turbos arent magic. his 18g isnt making any more power than any other 18g.

just like all vf39's flow the same.
They don't though. Porting, boost level, volumetric efficiency, infact, EVERYTHING affects the power a turbo makes, as well as the trap speed. For example, I make at least 20 more whp than other Evo 9 turbo cars on this exact same dyno. Comparing anything but time slips in my mind is like comparing apples to oranges.

Trap != power/weight. You have to take into account aero, elevation, rotational mass, wind, traction, etc... There are so many factors, it's insane.

When you dial everything in nice, you get good results.

Here is a copy of my dyno graph, on STM's mustang dyno:

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Old 12-17-2009, 06:46 PM   #47
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didnt curt brown run 10s w/ a gutted stock turbo evo like 5 years ago? either way, thats some accomplishment but i knew she had to be a jenny craig diet for those e/ts...
I think he holds some record like that, but keep in mind, I haven't been trying for 5 years, I have only been racing this Evo for about 5 months now
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:07 PM   #48
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They don't though. Porting, boost level, volumetric efficiency, infact, EVERYTHING affects the power a turbo makes, as well as the trap speed.
all those things are taken into account in trap speed.

its the power you made that day in those conditions.

i agree they all play apart and most people going for xx turbo record have everything under the sun done.

xdrians 18g isnt making 500whp while everyone elses is making 400whp. its his weight and gearing and being at a favorable track in favorable conditions.

yes, location and elevation effect the turbo. and u wont run the same time in denver as at sea level, but a maxed out super ported 18g = a maxed out super ported 18g. one isnt gonna flow 50 lb/min while every other one on earth flows 40 lb/min
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:12 PM   #49
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Ahh yeah, I see what you are saying, so I at least agree with you there
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:18 PM   #50
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so how are the trannies and motors in evos? is the stock motor and gears gonna last at 125mph? i know 4 people who have 4g63's. all 4 blew the stock motor. then about 4-5 head gaskets a piece. and one went through a stock tranny and shep tranny. just curious is that is normal? im leaning towards the people around here just being retarded.
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