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01-04-2013, 11:49 AM | #101 |
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I agree that the car should start more easily, but let's not get carried away. It starts. Be glad you don't have a VW TDI. The issues that VW has been building into those cars since 2009 leave people stranded, sometimes causing engine damage. I owned a TDI before this Impreza, so I know what it feels like to be stranded by a car with less than 30k miles on it.
So for me, I don't think that cranking the starter for 5 or 10 seconds is a show stopper. It shouldn't happen, but as long as the car starts, is it really a big deal? I doubt it's caused by the car wash. I don't use a manual car wash. The wash I use is automatic, where it pulls the car through. I do this once or twice/week, and have only had a hard-start once (unrelated to the wash).
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01-07-2013, 01:04 PM | #102 |
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Hi Everyone
Looks like we started seeing this on our 4 month old 2013 Impreza so I wanted to post my notes which I have provided to my dealer in Toronto. The car is parked outside all the time and is driven daily. We only use the recommended fuel (no high octane fuel). To describe the issue this morning:
I will follow up if I get a solution (As I am waiting for feedback from the service advisor). |
01-07-2013, 01:16 PM | #103 |
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Has anyone else tried the premium fuel trick? I might but it happens so rarely in my case so far.
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01-07-2013, 02:21 PM | #104 |
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In regards to the premium fuel trick,
I really don't understand the logic with this. Condensation in the tank freezing is the most common issue which causes fuel related issues. Premium (high octane fuels purpose is to not prematurely ignite when the engine is running at high temperatures. The best way to avoid condensation is to keep the fuel tank full to keep out the air. My dealer (Brampton Subaru) did a service record check and did not see any reported issues relating hard starts in cold weather. So I think it is best we report the issue to the home dealership and make sure it is recorded. Suggestion from dealer: One thing that may help is that when starting the car is when turning the key leave it in the on position for 4-5 seconds before going to the start position, this allows the engine throttle control servo to cycle improving cold start. We may have to preform an "IDLE LEARN" which teaches the engine computer how much to open the throttle on start up. |
01-07-2013, 05:19 PM | #105 |
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First failed start happened yesterday morning. The temp was -7 celsius but the car had spent the night in the garage so not a factor. So failed he first 2 time i turned the key. Third time i waited for all the lights to do their things and the car finally started. I have about 12000 km on the car so far.
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01-08-2013, 01:56 AM | #106 |
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try replacing the plugs
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01-08-2013, 06:53 AM | #107 |
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01-08-2013, 12:30 PM | #108 |
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I'm not planning to replace anything at this point, just observed and if it reoccurs all that the car to the dealer.
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01-09-2013, 09:54 AM | #109 |
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I had my 2nd hard start event this morning. 28 deg F out. I let the gauges do their sweep and then while cranking it took a while for it to start. Once started though it was like normal; that is no rough idle or any of that.
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01-09-2013, 10:05 AM | #110 |
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Just saw this thread bump, I had my first hard start with just over 10k on the odometer. I turned the key, it barely started, and then about a second later it "caught" and the rpms seems to be normal.
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01-09-2013, 08:09 PM | #111 |
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When it is at or near freezing, I use the remote starter. Never has failed to start. Only time that I experienced a "non-start" at the first attempt was on my 2008 OBS, and that was caused by a misfire on all cylinders (cold morning @~40 F). Dealer isolated case of the misfire to be water in the gas tank (filled up at a station that I normally don't use - and will never use again).
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01-16-2013, 08:49 AM | #112 | |
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01-16-2013, 11:40 AM | #113 |
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Your problem definitely sounds like it was a lot worse than most of the rest of ours. Glad it got fixed!
Most of us have trouble replicating it, and for me, I'm not worrying about it, because it hasn't happened in a long, long time. If it was ever even close to as severe as you describe, it would very much warrant a trip to the dealer. |
03-07-2013, 08:22 AM | #114 |
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Had this happen today. Failed first time, second attempt took over 10 seconds to start.
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03-07-2013, 08:26 AM | #115 |
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03-07-2013, 11:09 AM | #116 |
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i made the appointment for monday. I plan to print off the tsb and bring it with me.
it also happened last night, but it only took maybe 4 seconds to start. this morning was excessive IMHO. we will see in a few hours when i get back and can start it again. |
03-07-2013, 11:13 AM | #117 |
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Sounds great. I know you will keep us updated on the outcome.
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03-08-2013, 07:55 PM | #118 |
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I have the rough idle problem that happens at stoplights. It randomly occurs 3-4 times a week, usually when I've been driving for less than 5 minutes. The RPMS drop the car shakes and shudders and then it returns to normal. Feels very much like a misfire. I have an appointment on the 13 to get it checked out and will present the following TSB's to the dealer
Service Bulletin # 11-124-12 Bulletin Description: This bulletin will provide an inspection and repair procedure for camshaft position-related and/or engine misfire DTCs for 2.0L FB engine-equipped 2012MY or later Impreza and XV Crosstrek models. In addition to a Check Engine light coming on, there may or may not be customer concerns of rough idle, extended cranking or no start. The camshaft position sensor clearance may be out of specification causing these condition(s) and one or more of the DTCs to set. Service Bulletin # 11-125-12 Bulletin Description: This Service Bulletin will provide an inspection and repair procedure for EXHAUST camshaft position and / or misfire-related DTCs for FB engine-equipped 2012 and later MY Impreza and XV Crosstrek models with FB engines. The camshaft position sensor clearance may be out of specification causing these condition(s) and one or more of the DTCs to set. In addition to a Check Engine Light coming on, there may or may not be customer concerns of rough idle, extended cranking or no start. |
03-08-2013, 08:17 PM | #119 | |
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03-09-2013, 10:55 AM | #120 |
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I have also had this problem several times with my 2012 Impreza Sport (CVT). I've taken it to my dealer twice and both times they say they can't replicate it and therefore nothing was done.
In addition to the slow start, sometimes after the slow start I get the following message on the LCD "The vehicle dynamics control system needs to be checked". If I turn off the vehicle and start again the car starts fine and the error is gone. |
03-09-2013, 12:06 PM | #121 | |
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03-11-2013, 01:38 PM | #122 |
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Dealer said they couldn't duplicate the problem and there were no dtc's set. They did find an ecu update though and did that. So I guess we will see if it happens again, it hasn't since I scheduled the appointment
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03-13-2013, 07:24 AM | #123 |
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Car was not plugged in last night (it was, but apparently my timer failed so it never activated), temp -1f and car started in under 2 seconds so the ecu programming most of done something
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03-25-2013, 01:46 PM | #124 |
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Every 600 miles
My new 2013 Impreza has 1800 miles on it and I know exactly what you all are talking about. The car takes a while to start every 600 miles like clockwork. My 05 Honda Civic did something very similar and it had something to do with the emissions system cleaning itself out. Since my Subaru only has this issue every 600 miles to the exact mile, I figure it has something to do with the PZEV systems normal operation.
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03-25-2013, 05:11 PM | #125 |
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You can rule out weather. I think its a sensor or fuel delivery problem. It has only happened to me 1 time in 11 months.
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