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Old 02-12-2012, 11:05 PM   #1
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Default 2012 Extremespeed -AWD Competition Series



For 2012 Extremespeed will be bringing you a 8 series AWD competition!!! Events will be low priced as usual to help you get out to the track while giving you a chance to compete in a fun series

Competition Dates: (This will be updated with discount codes, track configurations or any changes)

Round #1) March 24th, 2012 Big Willow
Round #2) April 15th, 2012 Streets of Willow CW (Sunday)
Round #3) June 2nd, 2012 Buttonwillow #13 CW u
Round #4) July 29th, 2012 Streets of Willow CCW (Sunday)
Round #5) August 19th, 2012 Buttonwillow #13 CW (Sunday)
Round #6) October 13th, 2012 Big Willow
Round #7) November 24th, 2012 Streets of Willow CW
Round #8) December 16th, 2012 Streets of Willow CCW (Sunday)

Register here for events: http://www.extremespeedtrackevents.com/

Prizes for Street/Modified (year end prizes/sponsors TBD)

1st Place: T-shirt, Trophy, $30 off for future event 2nd Place: Trophy, $20 off for future event 3rd Place: Trophy, $10 off for future event

Points: 1st - 10
2nd - 8
3rd - 6
4th - 5
5th - 4
6th - 3
7th - 2
8th - 1

RULES ARE UP TO DEBATE RIGHT NOW AND WILL BE TWEAKED BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GET. Please give us suggestions on any adjustments for points per mod or any additional items that should be included. If any mod sounds vague and requires clarifying, state what needs to be clarified, etc.

Points System

AERO (2.25pts)

0.75 = front splitter
0.25 = aftermarket rear diffuser
0.75 = aftermarket wing
0.25 = front canards (2)
0.50 = front canards (4)

TIRES (2.0pts)

-0.50 = 235 width
-0.25 = 245 width
0.00 = 255 width
0.50 = 265 width
1.00 = 275 width
1.50 = 285 width
1.75 = 295 width
2.00 = 305 width

SUSPENSION (3.5pts)

0.50 = swaybar upgrade
0.50 = drop springs and/or aftermarket shocks
1.00 = 1 way adjustable coilover suspension
2.00 = 2 way adjustable coilover suspension
3.00 = 3+ way adjustable coilover suspension

ENGINE (7.5pts)

0.25 = test pipe
0.25 = downpipe
0.25 = cat-back exhaust
0.25 = 02 housing
0.75 = aftermarket stand alone ECU
1.00 = aftermarket camshaft/headwork
0.25 = Ported Stock Turbo
1.00 = BBK Full/LITE and FPGreen HTA
FPGreen and HKS GTII 7460R
1.50 = FP Red / GT30R / BBK-B
2.00 = FP Black and bigger (GT35R, HTA35R, 750R, 900x, GT37R, GT42R, etc)
0.25 = fmic
0.25 = intake
0.25 = boost controller
1.00 = built motor

WEIGHT REDUCTION (1.00pt)
0.25 = Per lightweight body panel (hood/trunk/front fenders/roof)
0.00 = Anything behind Driver and Passenger seat
0.00 = Spare Tire/Tools/Jack 0.00 = Mini Battery

Safety (-1.75pts)

-0.25 = HANS -0.50 = 4pt roll bar
-0.25 = bucket seat
-0.25 = 5-6pts harness or 4pt Scroth ASM
-1.00 = rollcage installation

Street (0.00-5.00pts)

Basic Rules -Tires: 140tw+ (REO1R, RE11, R1R, RS3, Z1 SS, XS, AD07, AD08, RT615, RT615-K, etc...)

Modified (5.01-10.00pts)

Basic Rules Tires: 100tw+ (RA1, R888, NT01, etc...)

Unlimited (10.01-15.00pts)

Basic Rules Tires: 40tw+ (R6, A6, R1, Z214, V710, A005, etc...)



Just tally up your mods, and this will place you in the appropriate class!
Base points for Cars:


Mitsubishi Evo 8 GSR, MR, RS/ 9GSR, SE, MR, RS / 10GSR, MR = 0.00pts Subaru Sti = 0.00pts Subaru Wrx/Ralliart = -1.50pts
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:46 PM   #2
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How do you confirm the integrity of points on each car?

What if the built motor doesn't provide any additional horsepower benefit?

What about brakes?

Upgraded TMIC?

Does a pro-tune count as "standalone ECU"?

Camber plates?
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:06 AM   #3
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How do you confirm the integrity of points on each car?
There will be tech inspections...
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What if the built motor doesn't provide any additional horsepower benefit?
Why would someone pay for a built motor that doesn't improve the power of the car?! I would ask for my money back.
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What about brakes?
Yes, we should setup a points system for upgraded brakes and Big Brake Kits.
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Upgraded TMIC?
Won't cost you any additional points.
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Does a pro-tune count as "standalone ECU"?
No. As long as you retain the OEM ECU it does not count as a Standalone ECU Upgrade.
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Camber plates?
Camber plates are also fine. Just can't change the geometry points of any suspension points.

So what do you all think should be the points penalty for a Bigger than OEM Brake Setup??

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Old 02-14-2012, 03:27 AM   #4
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There will be tech inspections...

Why would someone pay for a built motor that doesn't improve the power of the car?! I would ask for my money back.

Yes, we should setup a points system for upgraded brakes and Big Brake Kits.

Won't cost you any additional points.

No. As long as you retain the OEM ECU it does not count as a Standalone ECU Upgrade.

Camber plates are also fine. Just can't change the geometry points of any suspension points.

So what do you all think should be the points penalty for a Bigger than OEM Brake Setup??
Thanks for the detailed responses! Just trying to help form a fair point system, as I plan on participating in the future. You have a pretty good start

With the OEM ECU, you can have either "off the shelf" tune such as ones from a Cobb AP or a pro-tune. The latter almost always yields more power and better useable powerband.

I paid for a built motor in my car but it was built to OEM specs. I blew a stock piston and rebuilt it with just new forged pistons, rods, bears, and studs. Near identical power output but just more reliable.

Camber plates allows for more aggressive alignment settings = more grip.

As for brakes, I think all WRX and STi's with OEM Brembo's should be zero points. All WRX's with the inadequately tiny stock brakes should be maybe -1.50? All other aftermarket brakes that are an upgrade from the OEM Brembos should be +1.0? or so.

What do you think?
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:50 PM   #5
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Hi Dutchoeven,

In my opinion, brakes are a safety item. It should be a free mod. I currently have stock oem evo 9 brembos that are now black in color. So I have nothing to gain from this. You are all free to upgrade your brakes for free.

WRX/Ralliarts already have a -1.5pt handicap or base starting point. If we gave you another -1.5pt, then you would have -3pts and you technically don't have to do your brakes. Then after the brakes, you can argue about suspension, turbo, etc...and want more deductions. The point of the -1.5pt handicap in the first place is we DO realize you are starting off at a disadvantage. Hence, free brake upgrades and 1.5pts to play with to make it on par with a bone stock sti/evo.

Yes, camber plates are free.

As long as you are on stock ECU, you wont take any pts. So people with MOTEC, AEM, and other stand alone ecu's would take 1pt.

Again my 2c. Glad you are interested in the series. Please spread the word to other Subie track people who are interested and/or who track their cars already.
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:54 PM   #6
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With built engines, they are able to handle more boost and timing as compared to a stock oem engine. They can also be more reliable and with the possibility of handling more timing and boost, you could say they gain some sort of power over a stock oem engine. I have a 2.0L built engine. I would take 1pt hit for it, even though it was rebuilt to stock specs. It is rated to handle more power than an oem engine. This doesn't mean it won't blow up or have engine failures or be immune to those.

There is also no way to tech/ensure/validate/enforce who has and who doesn't have built engines. So anyone with a built engine regardless of displacement would take 1pt hit. This DOES require an Honor System for it to work. Just don't lie and don't cheat. No one likes a liar and a cheat, especially if one gets caught.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:05 PM   #7
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no power to weight restrictions?

Where does my little N/A ass sit
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:10 PM   #8
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Looking forward to this!!!

Do Foresters get the handicap too?
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:24 PM   #9
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No power to weight restrictions. If you want that, maybe NASA appeals to you. We try to cater to everyone's diff approach to modifications. Just use the points to class yourself accordingly. Right now, its for Evo/STi/Wrx/Ralliart (AWD Cars). If Foresters and other cars want to play, we can work something out. Mitsubishi/Subaru Challenge or something. We would have to work out the base points for the Foresters. Maybe -2pts base? I dno.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:32 PM   #10
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yea I run with NASA now... only place I can seem to fit the damn car!
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:13 PM   #11
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Street class
1. John (Johns_EVOIXSE)
2. Anthony (2muchboost)
3. Ben (Azian)
4. Robert (MexicanEVO)
5. Sean (1wkdevo)
6. Branden (littlejap33)
7. Steve (sstevojr)
8. Chris Saldana (jdmbeasti) (socalsubie.com)
9. Nate (SleeperEvoX)
10. Saul Good (Socalsubie.com)
11. bue car (Socalsubie.com)

Mod class:
1. Zhong (Pure EvoIX)
2. Tony (Devsol)
3. Justin Bordonaro (kanyonkid)
4. Kevin (flyinscot)
5. Isamu (Isamu)
6. Hailey (Slave4Metal) (socalsubie.com)
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:20 AM   #12
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I still think street should be 0-3 points..
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:48 PM   #13
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^ Because you are under 3 pts right?
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:09 PM   #14
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We need more Subies competing don't be scared, a few lil evo's won't hurt you..............badly LOL jk
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:46 PM   #15
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i wanna jump into this!
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:08 PM   #16
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^ What's stopping you? If you are in, I'll add you to the list.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:06 AM   #17
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nothing,im signing up for sure!
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im in for sure...
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bump! What class will you two be in?
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street class...ill be 3 pts as well...
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Street class
1. John (Johns_EVOIXSE)
2. Anthony (2muchboost)
3. Ben (Azian)
4. Robert (MexicanEVO)
5. Sean (1wkdevo)
6. Branden (littlejap33)
7. Steve (sstevojr)
8. Chris Saldana (jdmbeasti) (socalsubie.com)
9. Nate (SleeperEvoX)
10. Saul Good (Socalsubie.com)
11. bue car (Socalsubie.com)
12. Don (Drifthobo)
13. South Coast Subaru (nasioc.com)
14. cory02wrx (nasioc.com)

Mod class:
1. Zhong (Pure EvoIX)
2. Tony (Devsol)
3. Justin Bordonaro (kanyonkid)
4. Kevin (flyinscot)
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End of Year Prizes. More TBA!!

Street
1st - $250 + Trophy
2nd - $150 + Trophy
3rd - $100 + Trophy

Modified
1st - $250 + Trophy
2nd - $150 + Trophy
3rd - $100 + Trophy
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what class would a stock GTR be?
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i wanna jump into this!
Me too I start my break in on my new motor on Friday. Don't know if I can get her ready for this.
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Stock GTR would be MOD class
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