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11-01-2009, 11:18 AM | #26 | |
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The issue is made worse that the exhaust valves are still open as the combustion moves through.
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11-01-2009, 11:21 AM | #27 |
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damn Mick! That's serious.
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11-01-2009, 11:46 AM | #28 |
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I hear the same about the flat foot shift function as well that a few EMS systems use to keep the turbo going during shifting...Something about it being hard on valvetrain components also?
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11-01-2009, 11:50 AM | #29 |
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Very nice. What sort of controls do you have on the Autronic? I notice a periodicity to the loud bangs, can you set the frequency? Looks like 3 quarters of a second on off throttle and 10hz or something at part throttle.
Has anyone ever devised a system that actuates the throttle cable instead of external solenoids? Or used the cruise control cable? Or do you need finer or faster control? |
11-01-2009, 12:14 PM | #30 |
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one mad subie!!
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11-01-2009, 09:05 PM | #31 | ||
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If you could work out how to do a throttle kicker you would have amazing antilag. |
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11-01-2009, 09:56 PM | #32 | |
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Oh also, had one more question. Does the Autronic system let you toggle the anti-lag system on or off fairly easily? Because I could see it working okay on a daily driver as long as most of the time it was off, and it was only flipped on when doing more spirited driving (and would consequently cause a lot less damage to the engine and turbo). |
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11-01-2009, 09:59 PM | #33 |
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I haven't heard that noise in years...I can still picture cars booming their way through the woods at 85mph...
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11-01-2009, 11:07 PM | #34 |
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I have the Antilag enable setup based on an external switch making it easy to turn on and off. It's actually connected to the rear defog switch because that was easy to do. Rear defog is on a time circuit so one day I am going to hook it to the AC switch which I don't use either.
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11-02-2009, 01:51 AM | #35 |
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Very cool!!
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11-02-2009, 11:16 PM | #36 |
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after viewing your video i now am completely disappointed with life and wantz antilag...
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11-03-2009, 11:32 AM | #37 |
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11-03-2009, 12:53 PM | #38 |
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holy crap, that vid made my day!
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11-03-2009, 02:23 PM | #39 |
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LOL, thanks everyone. I have been pretty pleased how the Antilag setup turned out.
I've 1/2 installed the electric vac pump now so I'm closer to resolving the no vac for the brake booster problem when Antilag is enabled. I test hooked up the pump and was amazed at how much better the brakes felt. I'm hoping this will be enough to allow me to use Antilag on the track. |
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any updates? ..i know its a dead subject...but what happened since 09 when this was posted?
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07-03-2013, 08:15 PM | #41 | |
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Thanx for entertaining my noob question. Last edited by WelDun1; 07-03-2013 at 08:22 PM. |
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07-04-2013, 02:28 PM | #42 |
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^^^^^^
If you have dbw throttle you won't need the bypass setup Mick uses but if you are cable throttle you either use a throttle stop or bypass. Without it the motor won't be able to ingest enough air for the combustion needed to build boost for anti-lag. It explains it fairly well in the Link/Vipec help files. As for the vacuum pump, when anti-lag is active your manifold is no longer at a vacuum so your power assisted brakes won't work as well since it relies on vacuum for the assist. |
07-07-2013, 06:57 PM | #43 |
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Could throttle cable cars use the cruse control solenoid to open the throttle for anti lag? Not sure what system controls cruse but if its the ecu then you'd think a stand alone could do this.
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07-08-2013, 01:45 AM | #44 |
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Cruise control for the cable throttle cars is via a separate cruise control module and all the standalones I know of that do have the option of cruise control only work on DBW cars.
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07-08-2013, 05:31 PM | #45 |
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I have an 04 WRX with throttle cable and run an Autronic PnP board. Cruise works fine. But I have never seen anything mentioned in any of the tables, makes sense if it has its own module.
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07-08-2013, 07:08 PM | #46 |
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How do you like the Autronic? I don't know much about them.
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07-08-2013, 08:13 PM | #47 |
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First mod I purchased for my Suby back in 05 and the only thing that hasn't given up or disappointed me. I don't have experience with any other EM but the sm4 does everything and more than I want it to. But most of all its what my tuner prefers.
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07-09-2013, 02:18 AM | #48 | |
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Thanks for the info |
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07-09-2013, 02:58 AM | #49 |
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No it doesn't but if you open the PC Link help file and search anti-lag under the index tab it does explain the solenoid method that Mick uses and the DBW method you could use if you were DBW.
The throttle stop method is just a linear actuator that is used to hold the throttle open a set amount. You can assign a aux output to control that, how you mount it is up to you. |
08-04-2013, 06:22 PM | #50 | |
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Last edited by WelDun1; 10-01-2013 at 12:17 AM. |
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