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04-06-2012, 05:29 PM | #226 | |
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04-06-2012, 07:45 PM | #227 | |
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Most people don't re-vamp their car's electronics that quickly, if at all. And if a 6-7 inch screen is good, would not a 7.5-9.5 tablet be even better? A GSM+GPS iPad costs less than some in-dash nav systems, and can be used for so much more in addition to navigation. And in 1-2 years as they cycle through new technology, you hand the old one down to a relative, or sell it on ebay, or whatever, and buy the next device, with newer software, faster processing, and a double-resolution screen, and whatever else. And as long as it is in a holder, or a passenger is using it, how can a cop tell? You don't exactly hold it up to your ear, and it isn't any different than it being built into the dash... That is why NHTSA/US-DOT is ridiculous. Cops, truckers, and all sorts of other professional drivers have information systems in their vehicles. Yet they can manage to drive. But cops will pull over someone with a phone or an iPad in a dash-mounted holder, and call it illegal? How is it different than a cop's even more tech'd out cruiser, or, an in-dash navigation and infotainment system, except that it isn't built-in obsoleteness? |
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04-07-2012, 04:36 PM | #228 |
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04-07-2012, 04:54 PM | #229 |
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Maybe... but the demographics of people who can accept such a small car for an only-vehicle are narrow. I don't even need more passenger space than this, and I am not a normal demographic for my age. Most people my age have a crew of children to haul around, and this car won't work for that, it will barely handle a child seat at all in the rear seats, no-LATCH, and no airbag shutoff for the front passenger.
If you take into account the economic situation of people in that demographic, a lot are 18-30 year old students, or under-employed young single people, who may not be able to financially afford a new car, even if they want one. Rent, and other expenses, and other social life aspects are usually paid first, and that pushes some of those folks toward used cars, rather than more expensive, more depreciating new cars with longer loan terms, and more interest. As the cars become used, that demographic will likely keep the used price supported, but credit isn't as easy as it once was, and income has flatlined, while costs rise... buying power isn't as high as it used to be. The people who have money in place to spend on this sort of car right now as it comes out new, or any new car, are increasingly older, with older children, or are empty-nesters, or otherwise haven't had children, and either completely out of the demographic for this car, or if they happen to be enthusiasts, are probably buying it as a weekend toy, not an only car. And anyone with a cargo-requiring hobby or sporting activity is probably going to look for a vehicle with more cargo capacity, which either means FRS or BRZ won't be the only car, or something else with more cargo capacity WILL be their only car. there are demographic reasons why sports cars tend not to be mainstream high-unit sellers. They have a big image, but they aren't at the top of the sales stats compared to other vehicles, and not many garages have *only* a sports car in them. I have a Miata myself, but if I could only have one car, it wouldn't be a Miata, despite that we love it for what it does well. It just isn't versatile enough to be an only-car for us... and I can't imagine that it would be for anyone but a student or young person with very few practical demands. Last edited by HipToBeSquare; 04-07-2012 at 05:08 PM. |
04-07-2012, 05:13 PM | #230 |
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04-08-2012, 12:05 AM | #231 |
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04-08-2012, 12:13 AM | #232 |
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04-11-2012, 08:48 PM | #233 |
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04-11-2012, 09:44 PM | #234 |
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That's the IS-F V8, isn't it? I'll allow it.
Since I clearly have the power to allow and not allow swaps. |
04-11-2012, 09:58 PM | #235 |
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That V8 sounds terrible for some reason.
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04-12-2012, 12:48 PM | #236 |
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Finally, somebody put some good looking wheels on this car. Make it with those wheels, on an Ultramarine example, and you'd have a very handsome car. Then just red-out those tail lights... for the love of pete. |
11-10-2012, 02:50 PM | #237 |
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11-11-2012, 09:38 AM | #238 |
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Is that supposed to appeal to self-destructive personalities?
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11-11-2012, 10:20 AM | #239 |
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Hmm, well I could use a new car and a different wife. Sold!
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11-11-2012, 12:01 PM | #240 |
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Brings tears to my eyes.
It could never air here. I wonder why Toyota didn't care about alienating women buyers in whatever market this did air in. |
11-12-2012, 09:39 AM | #241 |
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11-12-2012, 12:06 PM | #242 |
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Kinda funny. A great follow-up video should show the wife leaving, doing donuts down the street as they drive off in the GT86, big s***-eating grin on her face
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11-12-2012, 12:47 PM | #243 |
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My girlfriend would be excited as **** if I got one.
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11-12-2012, 01:25 PM | #244 |
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11-12-2012, 02:18 PM | #245 |
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11-12-2012, 02:21 PM | #246 |
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I have standing orders to sleep/eat/poop in my FR-S/BRZ should I bring one home without first discussing it with my wife.
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11-12-2012, 04:05 PM | #247 | |
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That ring is far, far, faaaaaar from happening. I'm one of those stubborn ******** who is 30 and still dating. I really dig her, but neither of us are in a hurry to get married. I'll be enjoying my money for a bit longer. However, I can understand the consequence if I was married and pulled a 25K dollar stunt like that. Though it is an awesome "hear me roar for I am man" maneuver, it would wreck a relationship if finances were an issue. |
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11-12-2012, 08:52 PM | #248 |
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That video isn't far from the truth. .
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11-13-2012, 09:00 AM | #249 | |
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02-01-2013, 10:53 AM | #250 | |
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Toyota Teases Ft86 Open Concept Ahead Of Geneva Debut
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