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Old 05-08-2006, 06:14 PM   #1
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So, I'm in the market for a new(er) car, and decided that I don't want a hellacious (sp?) car payment. I was going to get a WRX wagon, but that is pretty expensive (esp. since I'm a college student). There is a Legacy Limited Sedan down the road at a small car lot.

I don't know anything about the Legacy's except that the sedans look cool. the Limited Legacy has a hoodscoop, but does it have a turbo? I know that it is designated "GT" but don't know more than that.

Do those year/model Legacy's have any inherent problems? i.e. my escort has a cooling problem, always has, just a flaw with the escorts.

So far, the only down side to this car is that it has ~143k miles. That's killer mileage for a 98.

Any other ideas, comments, suggestions, reminders, etc. would most definitely be appreciated.

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Old 05-08-2006, 06:27 PM   #2
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It does not have a turbo.

143k miles isnt that bad at all, assuming the headgaskets have already been redone (HG are a common problem on the 2.5L engines)
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Old 05-08-2006, 06:32 PM   #3
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The 2.5 engine puts out 165hp, right?

Would it be possible for me to check if the headgasket has been redone already? If it hasn't been redone, and I get the car and the HG goes out, how much would it cost to get that fixed?
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Old 05-08-2006, 06:37 PM   #4
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if it has that many miles, they may have been done, or they are ready to go. check the coolant overflow for oil and check for overheating.

the motors must be pulled for the 2.5's, so figure on around $1k for a shop to do it or around $200-500 to do it yourself
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Old 05-08-2006, 08:45 PM   #5
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Well, this car was listed on the lot for 5k and the dealer was driving it around, so I figure that it can't be in too bad of shape...but then, what do I know? Funny, b/c KBB lists it at ~7k for retail in excellent condition, and this one didn't look too bad.

If the car doesn't overheat, and there is no oil in the overflow, can I assume that the HG is either new, or still in decent condition?

I probably won't be doing the HG myself. That's a little too involved, and I don't have the know-how or tools to accomplish that myself.
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:03 PM   #6
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Ask them for documentation of the HG being repaired, and if they won't but claim that it was done, ask for documentation saying if the HG goes bad in the next 12K miles that they will do all services needed to fix the car. If it hasn't been done, say that you want the price knocked down, or have them fix it and sell at that price.

Remember, $7k is for a dealer "perfect" car, which means paint is in good shape, repaired where it was needed, no dents, maybe a ding or two, perfect upholstery, and runs like perfect.
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:19 PM   #7
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143k is nothing!

Absolutely nothing!

Just get the info on that headgasket
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Old 05-08-2006, 11:23 PM   #8
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Well, I'd always been told that ~12k miles was average per year that you'd put on a car, and KBB said the average mileage for 98 year was 89,000; so it seemed like a lot. Not to mention my escort has 156,000 and my first (broke down POS) had 190,000, so it's a little worriesom. I don't want to go buy a new(er) car and have it crap out on me (again). How much would it be to replace the engine if something did happen? I live in TN and Subies are not in high demand.

Also, this car was sitting on a really small car lot (probably has 15-20 cars), so idk if they'd offer a "warranty" for the HG. Do you think I could get them replace it, even if they didn't think it needed it? The car was listed only at 5k, so I'm not sure how much leverage I have with that small of a price.

BTW: I have excellent credit (~720), will have at least 2k (make 4k) down payment and a co-signer if necessary. To me, I should be able to go in there and get what I want; within reason, anyhow.
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Old 05-09-2006, 08:20 PM   #9
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sounds like a nice deal , just check the hg, look for any leaking under the engine.
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Old 05-09-2006, 09:04 PM   #10
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I put on 12k a year, and that's a very short commute for me, only 180 days out of the year.

We have an 02 civic with 100k on it
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Old 05-10-2006, 01:11 PM   #11
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in addition to HG i would check trainny fluids.. if its AT then should be nice and pink.. also front differential oils, make sure it aint black.. cause if tranny craps out on ya.. u will have to shell out some decent cash.. Also check CV Joints boots 2 on ech side of engine and rear differential, make sure they are in good condition (no tears or anything..) Test drive the car to make sure it doesn't pull to side and the steering feels firm without wobble...
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Old 05-10-2006, 01:31 PM   #12
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143k is nothing!

Absolutely nothing!

Just get the info on that headgasket
I would agree a Subie that has been well taken care of, 143k is nothing.

But the problem is how different people maintain the car. I think you can find a similar Legacy in price and have one with significantly less mileage in my opinion.

It's a tough decision, because I'm sure in some cases a lower mileage car might have been abused more, but I would take my chances with lower miles.

If it is not a Subie dealership, I would probably take it to another mechanic and pay the $50 or so to have a diagnostic/compression check etc. done if there isn't pretty solid records of regular maintenance.

It's a rule I almost always follow for used cars.

I didn't do it recently and it cost me in the long run with a SUV I just bought.
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Old 05-10-2006, 02:08 PM   #13
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I just bought my legacy outback limited from a used car dealer. I made sure to get it inspected down the street at a tire place before buying it. I had the coolant flushed and rear pads and rotors changed before i bought it. The dealer agreed. BUT not knowin much about the coolant at that time, i now see that my coolant is getting dark and oily. I chagned the coolant just last week and hope i have many miles on it before i need to replace the HG. ANYWHO . .i bought my wagon for 3995, with 123k on it, but i drove 2 hours to get it. It was in OH and i live in MI. . . ever consider traveling a bit farther to find a better Subaru?

just my $.02

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Old 05-10-2006, 02:25 PM   #14
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Get the thing checked out by a Subbie dealer or specific shop. If they can't provide proof of HG replacement, I would have them take the cost of it out of the price of the car and just have it done when you buy it.

I wouldn't trust a dealer to do any work on a car I'm buying to seal a deal.
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