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Old 10-16-1999, 08:51 PM   #1
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Question Legacy Turbos

How come there are so few turbo Legacy owners registered here? I just added my car to the club's database. It's a '91 Legacy turbo, currently putting approximately 270HP to the wheels. Check it out! Comments, of course, are welcome!

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Old 10-16-1999, 09:05 PM   #2
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Looks good... take some pics in the sun!

I think the reason that there are not many legacy turbos is that there are so few legaci overall. This *is* afterall an RS site.

BTW - your ride has the biggest friggin mod list that I have seen on this site. Heey-Zeuz! Come to a Seattle event sometime, I want to ride (cough, drive) that puppy!

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Old 10-17-1999, 03:48 AM   #3
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I think the main reason is that there are very few of those cars still around in good condition. I see more RS's than Legacy Turbos on the road. I actually was looking for one to buy but I gave up because the only 5 speeds I could find were in Canada or on the west coast(I live in NY). The other reason is that to many owners it's "just a car" and they have no clue what they have or it's potential.

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Old 10-18-1999, 02:51 AM   #4
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OG is spot on. A big majority of people who own them have absolutely no clue on what they have and really could care less even if they did know, similar to alot of Galant VR4 owners. There is no doubt that *if things are done right* the potential that car has is VERY high compared to other Subarus with the same amount of money put into them. Also, alot of Impreza guys are into autocrossing and that type of racing where handling plays a much bigger part then power and in that sense, A Legacy will never be as nible as the Impreza. I mean, Prodrive switched to the Impreza for a reason. Still, the Legacy Turbo is a FANTASTIC car nonetheless! Too bad they are as rare as hell.
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Old 10-18-1999, 04:37 AM   #5
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I took the time to add myself to the Members section, since I have been reading/posting with this board since it started. But, if you all read the regular forum, you will notice that we basically got voted out (as far as being actual 'members'). So, if you look, there is ONLY Impreza owners listed in the Members section. All that work importing pics, listing mods, etc....gone.

Oh well, it's their page to do as they wish.

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Old 10-18-1999, 06:08 AM   #6
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ForceFed - I just had a look, and they only separated the members lists. There is now a separate Legacy list there, with everyone's listings... At least I know that mine and Subie Gal's are there...

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Old 10-18-1999, 06:08 AM   #7
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hey, I got a 92 turbo?? any one out there have a Apexi intake I can rap to??
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Old 10-18-1999, 06:46 AM   #8
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Hi guys, I'm in Canada and have a 92 Legacy turbo. The car is great and I use this car for Rally race too. I just got an intercooler from HK and its a 98 WRX air to air intercooler, Now the problem is I don't know how to install it, Does anyone have an intercooler installed into your car, please post for help!
Shik, long time no see, How are you? Don't you still remember who I am? The board is great. Keep up your good work!!
Once again, thanks for all the information post and help, enjoy your Legacy!!
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Old 10-18-1999, 09:01 AM   #9
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I think you got a problem Ben. I talked to Shik before about WRX intercooler. He said the one that fit Legacy turbo is from 93-96 WRX. My friend has the same intercooler as your and we tried to install in my car and can not fit. Another option is to modify the tank, call Spearco to get the catalog or if you live close to Minnam, let them do it for you. The tank from Spearco, it cost from $40-60 but you need to tank. Also, you can go to any radiator shop that can fit the intercooler, sometime they can make the tank for you and it cost less.
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Old 10-18-1999, 04:18 PM   #10
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Hi Submerk, thanks for your info, I don't think I could get anymore older intercooler from WRX.
So, how can I modify the intercooler as I have??? Cut and weld? or any other way???
Please help!!!
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Old 10-18-1999, 08:39 PM   #11
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I don't see other way. However, if you can find the shop that can modify the tank but I think it cost more than you buy a new tank. Both way cost you about $200-300 or more. It's depend which shop you go. Where do you live?
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Old 10-18-1999, 08:53 PM   #12
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I picked up a 91' Legacy Turbo last month. Settled for an auto cause I couldn't find a 5 speed. Anyway I had a custom cat back 3" exhaust/turbo muffler today. Big difference in the bottom end - more power, more torque. What should my next upgrade be?
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Old 10-19-1999, 02:43 AM   #13
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Ben, Sorry I did not get back to your e-mail sooner. Submerk probably has the right idea. I believe the problem with the newer intercooler( and the older ones for that matter) is the actual intercooler piping. Being that it runs underneath the intercooler, it makes it very difficulty for the IC to lay in the engine compartment flat. This was a problem on the older ones as well but there was only one plastic semi-flexible pipe and it gives just enough so you can get the intercooler in. On the newer ones, the pipe is like a Y-pipe, taking up that much more space. I'm not sure if the actual size of the newer intercooler is the problem, as I've seen some Legacy's with the Minnam intercooler on which is a bit larger then the WRX one. But with the Minnam, the intercooler pipe enters from the side, not the bottom, freeing up alot of space. If you could find a good welder, maybe it is possible to modify the WRX intercooler so the pipe enters from the side like the Minnam. There is also the matter of the Blow off valve location, as I think( correct me if I'm wrong) it is bolted right to the intercooler( I new the VERY new ones are like this). That might be in the way of some things as well, but it is hard to tell cause I never actually saw the newer ones, I just know if the older one that I have was much bigger, it would not have fit. Ben, if all else fails, you could always sell it and just get the Minnam one. Good luck with it.

On a side note, any of you turbo guys that are thinking about exhaust upgrades, or already have a "cat-back", you should really think about the downpipe that RalliSpec will be doing soon for the Legacy Turbos. Time and time again, WRX owners have gotten BIG improvements from the downpipe replacement( which is almost identical to ours) as the stock one from Subaru is far from good and the downpipe is a very important piece that is often left go, but probably the most restrictive part of the exhaust!. They are going to take some measurements from my car( I'm hoping) at the end of the month and go from there. I believe it will be a straight pipe with no more cat in it but if you guys have any other ideas for it, let them know. BTW, the work that these guys do is nothing short of spectacular so it will be no " back yard just throw it together" exhaust. Check there post on this forum and their web site at www.rallispec.com . I'm sure it will be quite a bit cheaper then getting one from overseas( and just as good if not better), and to be honest, on something as critical as the downpipe, I would not feel comfortable with some run-of-the-mill exhaust shop messing around trying to make one. Just my opinion. I'll keep you guys updated on how it goes.Very sorry for the long post.
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Old 10-19-1999, 08:35 AM   #14
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Hi Shik, thanks for your reply!!!
You are so right, the bottom of the intercooler has 2 inlet and with the Y-pipe. I was tried to fits it to my car, but its little bit hard to put it in!!!( the A/C hose tooks too much space, how can I move it down little bit???)
Do you know any other way to fits it in??
If cut and Weld, which part do I have to cut and weld???( hope you know )
I may post the photo of the intercooler that lets you know how it looks like!!!
Again, thanks for your reply!
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Old 10-19-1999, 08:54 AM   #15
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Ben you have to cut the tank or buy the new tank for the top tank that has y-pipe. Then, for the bottom tank, if you can relocate the pipe that connect to throttle body to a liitle bit left, it will fit perfectly. It won't hit your coolant reserver tank. Ok I will send the picture to you, just to get an idea. However,the picture that I send is the custom make intercooler.
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Old 10-19-1999, 09:05 AM   #16
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I'm sorry Ben. The pipe that connect to throttle body should move o the right. For the y-pipe, you don't need it anymore, just make it to a single pipe and connect to turbo. However, there still one pipe on the nearly end tank on the right hand side, you can use that pipe to the bypass valve. But if you want the air from the bypass valve to go back to the intake, it's gonna be a little bit difficult.
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Old 10-19-1999, 08:31 PM   #17
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Agree with the folks who've posted that there are probably fewer of the Leg turbos out there still around. I had a 93 Sport, nice car. I thought it was pretty stable on fast, open gravel like Finger Lakes rallies.
Traded it on 98 GT, then the salesman told me the guy who bought it was very happy with it - - 3 mo.s later the fella totaled it!
Sorry I didn't keep it, but wanted to keep Mazda 323GTX, so....
Anyway, good luck with the mods, guys!
Cheers!
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Old 10-19-1999, 11:08 PM   #18
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Thanks Submerk!
I was asked a Subaru expert, he told me that I could close one of those inlet and use only one inlet from turbo , but do I still needs to cut and weld my intercooler????
I don't think I could pay for another custom made intercooler!!!
Please help!
Thanks again Submerk!!
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Old 10-20-1999, 08:23 AM   #19
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Your problem is on the top tank it hit the body, right. Also, the Y-pipe. The bottom tank, if you move the hose connector to the right, it won't hit your coolant reservant tank. Try to find the radiator shop that can fix any alluminum radiator, and explain to them what you want to do. It won't cost that much. For that intercooler, the only way to do is to cut and weld. Maybe it won't cost you more than $100 if you find a fair shop because to them is just the labor. Any shop that can fix aluminum, they might do it too.
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Old 10-20-1999, 04:35 PM   #20
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Thanks Submerk, one more question!
I was thinking can I upside down the intercooler because when I upside it down, it won't hit the radiator reservant ,Will this way make it possiable to fits into it!!
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Old 10-20-1999, 10:15 PM   #21
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I think you can do that but what about your y-pipe. I think it will face to different side of turbo. What r u gonna do about that? Also it will block or the air from the scoop . If you do that, can you close your hood.
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Old 10-20-1999, 10:19 PM   #22
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Ben. I think Jonesboy also has intercooler, if I'm not wrong. I saw his website before. His car has Minnam intercooler. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry Jonesboy.
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Old 10-21-1999, 07:10 PM   #23
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Kind of a late reply, but since I've just discovered this board, my 2 cents
are needed


Have to agree with OG's post on Legacy Turbo's... There are very few of
those in Toronto and the GTA (Greater Toronto Area). Out of the 3 Turbos
I've seen over the course of last 4 months, 2 where used as family sedans
and one white '93 was standing in the lot of Willowdale Subaru dealership.
That's a real shame... This car rocks... I'm thinking of getting an Impreza
RS next year, but if it'll be affordable, I'll keep my manual 5spd '91
Turbo, since it's a great piece of machinery...
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