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Old 05-10-2006, 04:16 PM   #1
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I've decided I want a flat bar road bike. I'm too pansy to put up with drop bars, and I'm not fast anyway, so I might as well be comfortable.

My two contenders are:

Jamis Coda Comp:
Steel Frame, carbon forks, Deore XT derailleur, Shimano R440 shifters

Raleigh Route 66:
Aluminum Frame, carbon forks, Shimano 105 derailleur, Shimano R440 shifters

These two have pretty similar specs, and are priced pretty close. My current leaning is toward the Jamis. Although it weighs a couple more pounds, I'm thinking the steel frame will be a bit more comfy. Since I'm already compromising toward comfort...

I'm wondering about Deore XT vs. 105 though. I'm fairly familiar with the 105, and I like it very much. The owner of the bike shop prefers the Deore XT.

So straighten me out, OT bike gurus.
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Old 05-10-2006, 04:31 PM   #2
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Steel is real, but the answer is give them both a test ride and see which one feels better. Both 105 and XT are fine, and neither one is going to give you trouble. The XT is a mountain bike component, and may be a bit burlier, but your upgrade path is the thing you might want to think about. If you are fine with off road stuff, it will last forever, but if you want to go roadie and put on some drops on later you may be limited.

Really, you can't go wrong with either bike, but I prefer steel. The best advice I can give you is find a good shop, ride them both, and get fitted.
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Old 05-10-2006, 04:37 PM   #3
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I'd say the Raleigh should be more comfortable, since it comes with the suspension post on top of the carbon fork like the Jamis.
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Old 05-10-2006, 04:52 PM   #4
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I'd say the Raleigh should be more comfortable, since it comes with the suspension post on top of the carbon fork like the Jamis.
The Jamis also comes with a suspension seatpost and it's got the elasticity of a steel frame to boot.

As far as which is the better gruppo, it comes down to how you are going to ride the bike. 105 is third from top-of-the-line roadie stuff, XT is second from top-of-the-line MTB stuff. Quality is really a wash here.

XT will be heavier, but will have lower gearing than the 105 (both use the same roadie triple gearing in the front, but the Jamis uses an 11-32 cassette vs. the Raliegh's 12-25). If you live someplace with a bunch of hills (or if your really out of shape ) the Jamis may be your best bet.

If you wanted to you could always put a 12-25 cassette on the Jamis, and it wouldn't require changeing anything else. If you wanted lower gearing on the Raliegh however, you'd have to change the rear derrailleur as well.
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Can't say that you'll really lose either way. Go by how each one fits. You may not see tremendous benefit from the steel frame in terms of ride especially given the suspension post. You could always throw a suspension post on the aluminum bike.
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Old 05-10-2006, 04:58 PM   #6
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Yeah, I though I saw a simple carbon seatpost. To be honest, these bikes could even be from the same factory in china or taiwan. I think that the 28 sized tires will be a big help for comfort. But I would say the components make the Raleigh go towards the MTB side, Jamis towards the roadie side. If I was working with your parameters I would have gone with a cyclocross myself, so that way I can take it off road and road ride with some comfort and speed.
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They've both got suspension posts.

Really, apart from the rear gearing, they're pretty much identically spec'd. The Jamis has a slightly better wheelset though, lower spoke count and I've never been a fan of Joytech hubs.
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Old 05-10-2006, 08:39 PM   #8
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Thanks for all the input guys. Unfortunately, the bike shops here are pretty small, and neither of these is kept in stock.

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If you live someplace with a bunch of hills (or if your really out of shape ) the Jamis may be your best bet.
I think I'll go for the Jamis, as I live in a spot with a bunch of hills AND I'm pretty out of shape.
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Old 05-10-2006, 08:43 PM   #9
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It's called a touring bike if it has suspension and or non drop bars..
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