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Old 03-22-2011, 08:23 PM   #476
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i just bought an 08 sti w/o nav and would like bluetooth connectivity. im a bit confused after skimming the thread; does the unit come with the bt functionality no matter what, you just need a mic to enable it, or are there different head units for bt? mine does have satellite, if that makes any difference. assuming not all units have bt and i buy one that does, will my steering wheel controls still work properly? thanks!
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Are you looking for aftermarket stereos? I'm not sure about adding Bluetooth modules to the stock stereo. If you're going to spend money, you might as well get a new aftermarket headunit, with Bluetooth built in, because you'll get a better bang for your buck. You can get a Steering Wheel Interface, by PAC Audio, or Metra Axxes. I have a PAC one, with my Pioneer headunit/BT module. Steering wheel controls work to control Bluetooth audio.
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:15 AM   #478
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im looking at a cheap subaru head unit from an sti that has bluetooth
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:57 PM   #479
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The Subaru OEM Navi (available in 2008-2010, and some 2011 models) has built-in BT capability, but requires adding a microphone to enable the feature. It's only for phone calls, not audio streaming. However, that Navi HU won't be plug-and-play in a non-nav Impreza. See this post.

One of the new 2011 HUs (shown here) has built-in BT, but will require Subaru's mic module in the map light cluster. The 20-pin harness will be plug-and-play, except that it won't work with your steering wheel audio controls (SWCs). Also, the aux/mic and USB connections will require adapters/mods. I don't know whether it will do BT audio streaming without the mic connected.
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:49 PM   #480
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The Subaru OEM Navi (available in 2008-2010, and some 2011 models) has built-in BT capability, but requires adding a microphone to enable the feature. It's only for phone calls, not audio streaming. However, that Navi HU won't be plug-and-play in a non-nav Impreza. See this post.

One of the new 2011 HUs (shown here) has built-in BT, but will require Subaru's mic module in the map light cluster. The 20-pin harness will be plug-and-play, except that it won't work with your steering wheel audio controls (SWCs). Also, the aux/mic and USB connections will require adapters/mods. I don't know whether it will do BT audio streaming without the mic connected.
thanks, thats great info. its a 2011 unit, so it sounds like id sacrifice my swcs. is there any way around that?
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:46 AM   #481
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I no someone has asked this once or twice already. But is there away to hook up a sub and amp with out fetrjnf the one thru the dealer. I have a 2011 wrx no navigation. Any input would be great thank You very much.

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Old 03-24-2011, 04:23 PM   #482
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thanks, thats great info. its a 2011 unit, so it sounds like id sacrifice my swcs. is there any way around that?
You've lost me. You said you just bought a 2008 STI. What is a 2011 unit? Is that a 2011 HU that you've got your eye on buying?

Do you only want BT for phone calls, or for audio streaming?

There is no 2008-2011 OEM HU that has built-in BT and is plug-and-play with your 2008's harnesses.

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A) Get any of the 2008-2011 OEM Navi HUs (made by Kenwood). That will work with your 2008's 6 SWC buttons, and will do phone BT (but no streaming). However, it will require adapting the harnesses (as I explained in another thread I linked to). All of these HUs have the phone BT capability, and just need the mic to enable it.

2) Get the 2011 OEM HU with built-in USB and BT. That will do phone BT and audio streaming. But will require the 2011 mic, and won't work with your existing SWCs.

It may be possible for you to swap the 2011 SWC pods into your 2008, but they won't be plug-and-play -- at the very least, the extra wire between the wheel and the radio isn't there in your 2008. The connectors inside the wheel could be significantly different. Might require swapping the entire steering wheel (and still modifying the harness on the steering column).

You could possibly hack the resistors in your 2008's SWC pod to work with this 2011 HU. But you would only get 4 buttons (volume up/down, track up/down). You could enable one or two more of your existing buttons, but that would require even more significant modding (including adding the missing wire between the wheel and the HU).

Your 2008's aux harness is also a different connector, so that would require adapting to work with this 2011 HU.

3) Add a BT accessory to your existing 2008 HU -- either Subaru's OEM Media Hub with streaming (for audio, no phone), or an aftermarket BT device like one of the Parrot models (for phone).
For all of the time, effort, and expense of the above options, you might as well just switch to an aftermarket HU with BT built in.
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:08 AM   #483
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Is there away to hook up a sub and amp without [getting] the one thru the dealer? I have a 2011 wrx no navigation
You'll have to connect the same way the OEM sub does -- by tapping either the front or rear speaker outputs. You can use something like this to make that a little easier (and avoid hacking your factory wires).

Most amps will require you to run a heavy-gauge wire for the +12V directly to the battery. A very small amp could get away with tapping +12V from the radio harness (as the OEM under-seat subwoofers and 2011 rear subwoofers do).
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:59 AM   #484
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So quick question...

I'm considering getting the mcintosh factory head unit and amp into my 07 wrx tr which I currently have a basic kenwood head unit in. I figured I'd get a reverse harness for the hu itself and then find a 13pin din cable to be able to connect to the amp but my question here is where does the amp normally get installed? If its under the seat like the oem subwoofer option then I'm supposing I'd have to run the amp's speaker outs all the way back up to the center console to tap into the factory harness right?

Another thing is that I have both the factory option subwoofer and an aftermarket subwoofer with an amp connected into the rca pre out of my current kenwood hu, so would it be easier to try to tie into the T-harness that is going into my factory subwoofer for the speaker outs and power from the mcintosh amp and then install a rca preout from the rear channels of the 13pin din cable for my aftermarket sub?
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:26 AM   #485
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You'll have to connect the same way the OEM sub does -- by tapping either the front or rear speaker outputs. You can use something like this to make that a little easier (and avoid hacking your factory wires).

Most amps will require you to run a heavy-gauge wire for the +12V directly to the battery. A very small amp could get away with tapping +12V from the radio harness (as the OEM under-seat subwoofers and 2011 rear subwoofers do).
Thank you very much. I have installed a bunch of systems. Mainly on like older cars where the wires didn't have to be perfect and trucks also. But since this is my first new car I want to do it right but I don't Have the money for a good two sin. So thank you very much.

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Old 03-25-2011, 04:13 PM   #486
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You've lost me. You said you just bought a 2008 STI. What is a 2011 unit? Is that a 2011 HU that you've got your eye on buying?

Do you only want BT for phone calls, or for audio streaming?

There is no 2008-2011 OEM HU that has built-in BT and is plug-and-play with your 2008's harnesses.



For all of the time, effort, and expense of the above options, you might as well just switch to an aftermarket HU with BT built in.
thank you. i have an 08 sti, but its a bt/usb headunit out of an '11 which the dealer said would be plug and play. i was looking at buying it from a forum member, but called them to double check b/c he said his dealer said it was p&p as well. im looking for audio and media streaming, but would not sacrifice my swcs. i already have the motorola roadster, which will stream everything via fm transmitter, but thought it would be nice to have it all hardwired if it was cheap and easy. it is not, so i will continue to use the roadster. thanks again for all the help!
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:43 PM   #487
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Question 09 NAV - firmware question

I searched on this and the Forester forum before posting

I'm going to install the DIY mic (don't have mic yet) and the factory Ipod kit on my 09 forester NAV unit.

I looked on the version menu and see:

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2007 ver. 1

My service department said they hadn't heard of a firmware update.

My question is do I have the latest firmware? If not, do I need it?
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Old 03-27-2011, 04:29 PM   #488
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I'm considering getting the mcintosh factory head unit and amp into my 07 wrx tr which I currently have a basic kenwood head unit in.

I figured I'd get a reverse harness for the hu itself and then find a 13pin din cable to be able to connect to the amp
You'll also need a second reverse harness for the Mc amp's power and speaker connections. Older years use a 14-pin connector, just like the HU (except with a slightly different pin-out). Newer years use a similar 18-pin connector. See my post here. For both cases, I can build a custom version with the double power and ground wires.

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where does the amp normally get installed? If its under the seat like the oem subwoofer option then I'm supposing I'd have to run the amp's speaker outs all the way back up to the center console to tap into the factory harness right?
Yes, and yes.

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Another thing is that I have both the factory option subwoofer and an aftermarket subwoofer with an amp connected into the rca pre out of my current kenwood hu, so would it be easier to try to tie into the T-harness that is going into my factory subwoofer for the speaker outs and power from the mcintosh amp and then install a rca preout from the rear channels of the 13pin din cable for my aftermarket sub?
The OEM subwoofer must be fed from speaker-level outputs. So you will have to run it off the front or rear speaker outputs of the Mc amp. You can extend the Mc's 4 main speaker outputs back up to the factory radio harness, and then you can connect the OEM sub exactly where it does now. However, that sub may not work well with the Mc amp -- the Mc's speaker outputs may be too strong for the OEM sub.

For your aftermarket amp/sub -- Yes, you can tie into the line-level signals from the Mc DIN cable to use for the input to your amp.

But you could also connect the Mc amp's subwoofer output directly to your aftermarket sub speaker (and remove your aftermarket amp). You can even make some adjustments to the Mc amp's sub output -- see the link in my post.
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:45 PM   #489
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question.....

if i hook up a aftermarket head unit in my 2011 wrx no navi would i be able to use the AUX/USB (the ones in the center counsil i cant spell very well) still or would i just have to forget about them. thanks alot

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Old 04-04-2011, 06:46 AM   #490
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Anyone know if the harness/subwoofer (oem) from 2004 is plug and play with a 2011 wrx oem stereo (no navi)
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:20 PM   #491
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I have a brand new 2011 Forester 2.5X Limited with NAV and backup camera. I was looking into disabling the safety lockout features of the nav (ie address input while driving, DVD/Video lockout, etc) and ran across this in subaruforester.org:

https://www.beatsonicusa.com/nav-dvd...ss-module.html

I don't want to ground the p-brake, so this seems like a good option. The cost doesn't concern me.

Ran a search here, no hits. Anyone else have experience with this?

Looks like it works on 2008-2010 Impreza too!
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:24 PM   #492
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I have a brand new 2011 Forester 2.5X Limited with NAV and backup camera. I was looking into disabling the safety lockout features of the nav (ie address input while driving, DVD/Video lockout, etc) and ran across this in subaruforester.org:

https://www.beatsonicusa.com/nav-dvd...ss-module.html

I don't want to ground the p-brake, so this seems like a good option. The cost doesn't concern me.

Ran a search here, no hits. Anyone else have experience with this?

Looks like it works on 2008-2010 Impreza too!
I like the idea a lot. Not for that much cash.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:05 PM   #493
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I installed an 08+ Navi in my 08 WRX non-navi equipped and wondering if the oem underseat sub will work?

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It should work. You just have to have the right harnes going between the car harness and the HU.
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SVXdc or any other gurus, I need you!!!

I am from Australia and have a MY05 XT Forester.

I just purchased a OEM Factory satnav unit from a MY07 XT Forester. I also got the head unit from the owner which has the 20 pin link connector from satnav screen to head unit.

I have a major problem though, I am missing what looks like the power plugs for both the satnav screen and also the dvd navigation system in the glovebox!!!???

Below are a few photos of the systems and the connectors I'm interested in. I've searched the net for a few hours and can't locate much info on the connectors.

I'm hoping I'm just missing a couple of power +ve and -ve connections to power the units and I can splice from elsewhere?

Below is a pic of the dvd player navigation system in the glovebox. The model I have is FVZ804MF2 but I seem to have more luck with model number FVZ806EF2.



Below is a pic of the dvd player navigation system connectors. I don't have the white associating plug behind the glovebox and looks like a 6 pin power plug? Also have a mic connector and not sure if BT would work in this older model satnav?



Below is a pic of the satnav screen model. The model number is FGZ804MF2 but have more luck looking under FGZ806EF2.



Below is a pic of the satnav screen connector. I don't believe I have the 16 pin plug on the right...which I think powers the unit?

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I think I have finally worked out the wiring splicing plan for my MY07 to MY05 retrofit of the satnav.

The pic below is a MY05 wiring diagram. Three main differences to the diagram as compared to my current plans:
a) No need to splice/connect wiring in blue...related to reverse camera/sensors?
b) Conect Pin 3 on Navigation System/Touchscreen to Pin 32 on B38 connector for Illumination instead of ground (as per MY07 diagram)
c) No connection from Pin 13 on the Navigation System/Touchscreen to Pin 22 on B38 connector for Parking Switch (as per MY07 diagram)

My understanding of Navigation Unit in glovebox:
Pin 1 (LR) = Main Power
Pin 3 (YG) = Accessories
Pin 4 (V) = Illumination
Pin 6 (B) = Ground
Pin 2 (BrY) = Backup Light, reverse camera/sensors related? I don't have any and don't think I need to splice this wire into B128 connector?
Pin 5 (GOr) = Vehicle Speed Sensor

My understaning of the Navigation System/Touchscreen:
Pin 8 (LR) = Main Power
Pin 7 (YG) = Accessories
Pin 5 (GB) = Backup Light, reverse camera/sensors related? I don't have any and don't think I need to splice this wire into B128 connector?
Pin 11 (V) = Illumination
Pin 3 (BP) = MY05 pic shows Ground. However, MY07 diagram has this connected to Pin 32 on B38 connector and is Illumination related.
Pins 9, 15, 16 (B) = Ground
Pin 13 (P) = MY07 diagram doesn't state this Parking Switch at all. I'm currently not going to connect this as per MY07 diagram but not as big an issue if I'm advised to.

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Fuse number 18 is providing +12V Ignition ('on' when you turn your key to the on/run position) -- that is what (IG) means. So pin 5 on harness "i50" needs that connection.

The lead going into the nav unit ("B274" pin 2) is the reverse gear signal. So only the bottom-most trace should be blue (from the switch to the nav unit).

Some aftermarket nav systems use reverse gear (in combination with VSS) to improve location tracking during times of poor GPS coverage. I don't know whether these Subaru systems do.

See these threads (all on LegacyGT.com):
Installation of factory navigation into non-nav car

What are the minimum required wires to have the oem navigation work

Another OEM NAVI Features Hack Thread - Progress and Documents
They're all discussing the systems in North America, but might still provide some clues.

What are the part/model numbers printed on the label on that harness with the 10-pin plug (in your 2nd picture)? Other people might like to order that part.
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Thanks SVXdc for your reply...will definitely give it the IG connection!

Thanks for the links, lots of reading for me.

In my brief reading so far, grounding the parking pin, pin 13 in my case on the navigation touchscreen, allows for watching dvds on the move?

Will also try hooking up a mic to three of the 5 pins on the mic connector on the navigation system in glovebox.............small chance of bluetooth connectivity?

Out at the moment but will provide part number of plug later tonight/tomorrow!!! Cheers!
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Grounding the parking brake pin might work. But since yours is from a different model and year, I can't say for sure.

I doubt yours has Bluetooth. That's a fairly recent feature.

On your nav DVD unit, are those 3.5mm jacks on the back (green and black)? I'd appreciate clear pictures that show the entire front and rear of each unit, with all of the harnesses unplugged and no annotations.
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Even if the grounding brake switch pin doesn't work, there shouldn't be any adverse affect by grounding the pin anyway? No harm one way or another.

Hmm, if the mic 5 pin plug is not for bluetooth, what would it be used for then?

Yep, 3.5mm jacks on the back, one black and one green. I know the green one is for a remote? What's the black one for?

Please see the photos below as requested, including the part number for the wire harness. Hope you can reveal more mysteries of this system!












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