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Old 05-28-2006, 05:07 PM   #1
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Default tire brand and sizing question...

i've finally worn through the pos tires the dealership put on so now I can put some decent tires on...

I am debating between:

Toyo proxes 4
Goodyear eagle f1
BFG kdw
edit: Pirelli PZeroNero M&S

I used to have some proxes 4s on my supra turbo and really liked them so I am leaning toward these, but the wrx is such a different car that I am wondering if they are really what I need. I do like the price though...

I do not have a spare set of rims so these will be my only set of tires and will be mounted on the factory 16"s... I live in TN so it never snows, but it does get pretty cold sometimes (<20 F)

I drive fairly aggressively and am over 100 mph on the freeway pretty often so I need something that will not fall apart on me...

sizing questions:

am I limited to the 205/55-R16 size on these rims? I have heard that we can use 215/45 instead and even 225/40 in some applications

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Old 05-28-2006, 05:28 PM   #2
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I would get the Pirelli PZeroNero M&S
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Old 05-28-2006, 05:40 PM   #3
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those look very nice as well... now considdering them as well
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Old 05-28-2006, 05:51 PM   #4
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i'd love to hear from people with track/autox use
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Old 05-28-2006, 06:07 PM   #5
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The goodyear is the best summer/track/autox tire listed. 2 of the others are all seasons and the KDW just aren't as good as the f1.
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Old 05-28-2006, 06:11 PM   #6
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i'd love to hear from people with track/autox use

...forget using one set of tires/wheels, then.......ya gonna need street wheels/tires and autox-track wheels/tires
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Old 05-28-2006, 10:16 PM   #7
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because i only have one set of rims for now, i'm thinking I should go for all season and eventually get another set of rims with some dedicated summer/track tires

what do you guys think are the best all season tires?

also, could someone answer the sizing question? I want to know what the widest tire we can SAFELY use on the stock rim is... 205/215/225... I want the most rubber on the road possible without overstressing the side wall...
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Old 05-28-2006, 11:05 PM   #8
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i think it's basically between the pirelli and toyos now
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Old 05-29-2006, 05:01 AM   #9
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nevermind... after reading a few reviews. I'm pretty sure I am going to go with the goodyear f1s. I live in TN and it almoast never snows... it's over 40 degrees >11 months out of the year. I think I would benefit from a good summer tire and just be careful in the cold...

Are there any downsides of getting them in 225/50yr16 instead of the factory 205/55yr16? I would like to get the most grip I can on cornering becuase I would like to get into autox sometime soon...

are the sidewalls stiff enough to support the wider tires?
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:39 AM   #10
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225's on a wagon are tight (at the back) if you don't roll your fenders. If your have OE rims (+53 offset), most 225's will work, but some brands are actually wider than others so you have to research each one. 215's are safer, but you will be a little tall or a little short depending on if you go with a 215/55r16 or a 215/50r16. The 215's will also "fit" on your 6.5" wide OE rims better although the 225's are still with in the allowable range.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:48 AM   #11
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nevermind... after reading a few reviews. I'm pretty sure I am going to go with the goodyear f1s. I live in TN and it almoast never snows... it's over 40 degrees >11 months out of the year. I think I would benefit from a good summer tire and just be careful in the cold...

Are there any downsides of getting them in 225/50yr16 instead of the factory 205/55yr16? I would like to get the most grip I can on cornering becuase I would like to get into autox sometime soon...

are the sidewalls stiff enough to support the wider tires?
....I just got a set of falken 451's and the sidewalls are stiff
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Old 05-29-2006, 03:24 PM   #12
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what I am worried about is pulling the tire off the rim during a hard turn, especially with how stiff my suspension is... that's a lot of shear stress on the tire and I am wondering if the wider tire is more prone to coming off the rim during "spirited driving"...

as for the fender clearence, I can take a baseball bat to it if I really need to, ~10mm shouldn't stress the metal enough for me to have to worry about screwing up the paint
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....I just got a set of falken 451's and the sidewalls are stiff
that's what I've been telling people for a while now - they're just about the stiffest sidewalled rain tire available - hope you like 'em.

but I gotta admit, I love the RE070's even more - guess I'm a sucker for really stiff sidewalls...
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also, could someone answer the sizing question? I want to know what the widest tire we can SAFELY use on the stock rim is... 205/215/225... I want the most rubber on the road possible without overstressing the side wall...
225/50x16 can be safely run on the stock alloys, and some members have safely used that size racing tire on the stock rim without any problems. you're certainly not going to tear the tire off the rim with the grip street tires can generate, so quit worrying about it.

as good as the F1 GSD3's are, if you're going to spend lots of time tracking these tires, get the Hankook RS2's instead. If you're mostly on the road, the Goodyears are hard to beat. By the way, the F1's run narrow - and the RS2's run wide if you're worried about clearance - but with the stock alloys you won't have a problem with either due to the high offset and narrow 6.5" rim.
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thanks... that's what I was hoping to hear
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Old 05-29-2006, 07:57 PM   #16
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sounds like i'm going to go with the goodyear 225/50yr16 unless someone has valid opposition to them... one of my buddies works at walmart and is trying to get me a deal on them through his manager... i didn't realize walmart even sold y rated tires... go figure

thanks everyone for the help

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The F1 seems to be the most capable tire. I would highly consider those as my next set of tires.

I currently run Proxies4 on my car(came with the wheels). They do pretty well all around. Feel is pretty compliant and soaks up bumps pretty well. Wet and dry traction is good but not outstanding. About the only intrution they have on comfort is a little bit of road noise, audible but not howling. An initial and very short observance of wear behavior looks like they might hold up pretty well. Handling is smooth and predictable at 35psi. 40psi and up, they stiffen and crisp up a little and begin to feel a little edgy. Grip seems to be a touch better.

I was slightly disappointed on the overall grip levels, but the pleasant ride comfort and smooth predictability suprised me a little.

Note: this is 225/45/R17 on a stock '02 Forester...for reference.
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Old 05-30-2006, 02:34 PM   #18
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sounds like the goodyears are a winner...
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