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Old 05-28-2006, 09:35 PM   #1
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I'm looking for a set of 6.5 inch component speakers for the front doors of my 02 WRX, no greater than 2.5 inches in mounting depth. I dont want to have to modify the door to get them to fit. However, I will use speaker spacers and door card extensions from iaperformance.com. My budget is $350.00. I like a mellow tweeter, maybe a silk dome, with some good mid bass from the 6.5 inch driver. I am looking into a few brands, including CDT, but I understand that the doors or window tracks need to be modified for CDT's to fit. Any other suggestions? Thanks
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Old 05-28-2006, 09:50 PM   #2
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Dude, as long as youre willing to use those IA performance spacers, then you really don't have many limits...

Focal would be one of the few brands that might exceed the barrier, but other than that, you don't have many worries...

My worthless recommendations

Alpine X series
PG's lineup (great for the price)
Eclipse (the highly touted Vifa makes much of their component stuff)
CDT's Classic or HD series (great mellow tweets)
Diamond HEX (similar to CDT)

I'm sure you'll get a ton more recommendations
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Old 05-28-2006, 11:52 PM   #3
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i have a set of cdt's, which are not installed yet, they are from my other car.

but they are shallow, I would say they are like 2 5/8
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Old 05-29-2006, 12:10 AM   #4
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tang makes some great recomendations however worthless he may think they are (your ears and your money ot somthign like that lol)

the rainbow slc are another nice pair in your price range but alittle hard to get your hands on
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:04 AM   #5
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I am looking into a few brands, including CDT, but I understand that the doors or window tracks need to be modified for CDT's to fit.
The only modifying of the door you need to do to get the CDTs to fit is to slice off the plastic ring on the inside of the door. Really not a big deal at all. I imagine you'd want to do that with virtually any 6.5 as a precaution so your speaker doesn't hit the plastic edges.

I didn't need to modify anything else beyond a 1.25" MDF spacer and the door-extension pins to get my HDs in. No modifying of the window tracks for me.
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:46 AM   #6
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The only modifying of the door you need to do to get the CDTs to fit is to slice off the plastic ring on the inside of the door. Really not a big deal at all. I imagine you'd want to do that with virtually any 6.5 as a precaution so your speaker doesn't hit the plastic edges.

I didn't need to modify anything else beyond a 1.25" MDF spacer and the door-extension pins to get my HDs in. No modifying of the window tracks for me.

Yeah, this is what I was looking for. Thanks. I am also looking at Morel Hybrid's, dynaudio, and DLS as other options.
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tang makes some great recomendations however worthless he may think they are (your ears and your money ot somthign like that lol)

the rainbow slc are another nice pair in your price range but alittle hard to get your hands on
LOL avs... yeah you got it. I can make all the reccomendations in the world, but we all know the two most important things are what you think is best, and what you can afford.

Which is why i jokingly rendered my reccomendations worthless. I just mentioned some components that I like... He might listen to them and think they sound like a bucket of feces...
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Yeah, this is what I was looking for. Thanks. I am also looking at Morel Hybrid's, dynaudio, and DLS as other options.

Dude! If you're looking at Hybrid Ovations, I'm your man to talk to...

I used the THICKER spacers from IA performance just to make sure the mids would fit in there. And the tweeters are just fine in the stock location...

They are expensive, but they've been worth it to me. Sounding crisp with very high output, and I'm only putting 125 alpine watts to each...

I say "alpine watts" because alpine watts are not the same as, say, audison watts, or audiobahn watts, or kracko watts...
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Of course, I know that we all have differing tasts, which is why I did not ask for speakers from a sound quality stand point, but an ease of installation stand point. Thanks for all the replies.

Tang 06, which morels did you fit into the doors? Was it the 6 inch hybrids? If, so, I can get a great deal on a set. If so, you are definately the man to speak to. How do you like the mid bass from that set up? How big of a spacer did you use? Was the diameter of the magnet small enough to fit into the 5 inch diameter speaker hole? Did you need door card extensions? Thanks for your help.
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Of course, I know that we all have differing tasts, which is why I did not ask for speakers from a sound quality stand point, but an ease of installation stand point. Thanks for all the replies.

Tang 06, which morels did you fit into the doors? Was it the 6 inch hybrids? If, so, I can get a great deal on a set. If so, you are definately the man to speak to. How do you like the mid bass from that set up? How big of a spacer did you use? Was the diameter of the magnet small enough to fit into the 5 inch diameter speaker hole? Did you need door card extensions? Thanks for your help.
Woah, a lot of questions! I'll try to answer the best I can, since I didn't do the installation myself (i'm an armchair enthusiast, but someday i'll get my hands dirty)

-Yes, I have the Hybrid Ovation 6.

-Midbass is real solid, but I have an odd perspective. I had these CRAP JL speakers before I decided to grow a brain and get the Morels. And those JL's had no midbass. I often questioned whether or not the midrange driver was moving.

-I ordered the spacers from IA performance, as you alluded to before. As their website suggests, they will accomodate any driver up to 2.9 inches deep. Hybrid Ovations should be well within this range. They are made out of wood (mdf?), which is a GOOD thing, because it's a non-resonant material, and provides a great solid base to mount speakers to. If you didn't get these spacers you or your installer would have to make a spacer ANYWAY. So you might as well make things easy on you or your installer for a mere 30 dollars.

-The spacer set comes with longer door card pins, so no worries here.

-Also no worries about the magnet fitting in there. These spacers are designed for Imprezas, so there should be no heavy cutting. The only "cutting" that needs to be done is on the inside of the door card. There's a thin ring of plastic around the speaker grill on the inside of each card. A razor blade and a little sandpaper easily takes care of that. That's perhaps the most "complicated" part.

Now I'm curious. Just how cheap can you get those Morel's?
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Old 05-29-2006, 04:07 PM   #11
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If you are looking for a no-hassle drop-in component set, check out the MB Quart Reference RUA216 - very nice!
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i too am interested in how good of a price you can get......care to share the wealth?
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i too am interested in how good of a price you can get......care to share the wealth?

Absolutely. They said 225 shipped, new, from an audio forum. Dont know if they have been powered or not, but I am assuming they are barely used. Ive gotta get more info before I buy this, cause it seems like a steal...too good to be true...
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Old 05-29-2006, 04:42 PM   #14
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By the way Tang 06, thanks for all the info. I will be doing the install myself, and cause I am not much more of an armchair kind of guy myself, I want very good speakers that will drop right in.

Thanks
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Old 05-29-2006, 04:45 PM   #15
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Ahhh crap, just found out the morels were sold. Back to the drawing board

Still looking for high end stuff. There is DLS on ebay, but quite expensive.

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DLS stuff is really smooth and does not get harsh when turned up. A lot of the installers I talk to really like DLS, Focal and either love or hate Dynaudio. I recently installed a/d/s comps. all around in my Z and I love them. The midbass is awesome and the silk tweeter is accurate, but can get harsh until tuned. My installer that does mostly custom stuff fell in love with them and wants to try them in his next project. However, I have found they are best suited for R&B, rap, hip hop and the like, but they are not as detailed as Focals for more acoustic music. Overall, for the price they are a good deal. Shoot me a PM if you are interested in finding them cheap.
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dear lord that was a good price, dont owrry about it because prices like that are just what you said....to good to be true
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Besides DLS I like the SEAS Lotus Reference. Hot stuff. Morel's are great, the high end HEX from Diamond, There are a ton of options for you.
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Besides DLS I like the SEAS Lotus Reference. Hot stuff. Morel's are great, the high end HEX from Diamond, There are a ton of options for you.

Seas is probably out of my price range, but I may be able to find something used. I dont know how they will fit though. I also hear Diamonds are nice, but they seem to be a step down from morel and seas and such.
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Diamonds are def. a step down from Morel's and SEAS, but still not bad. What exactly is your price range?

SEAS will fit with a bit of modification, but nothing huge. Contact Shuey_1 (Rj) for info on the install.
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Diamonds are def. a step down from Morel's and SEAS, but still not bad. What exactly is your price range?

SEAS will fit with a bit of modification, but nothing huge. Contact Shuey_1 (Rj) for info on the install.
$350.00, maximum I can spend
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By the way Tang 06, thanks for all the info. I will be doing the install myself, and cause I am not much more of an armchair kind of guy myself, I want very good speakers that will drop right in.

Thanks
No problem. Too bad they got sold, 225 is unreal, even if slightly used.

keep in mind, there are components which USE morel drivers, but under other brands. I believe Phoenix Gold is one of these companies...
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at 350max the diamond hex's are a great choice and again the rainbow slc is a great choice at the sub-300 price range
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-I ordered the spacers from IA performance, as you alluded to before. As their website suggests, they will accomodate any driver up to 2.9 inches deep. Hybrid Ovations should be well within this range. They are made out of wood (mdf?), which is a GOOD thing, because it's a non-resonant material, and provides a great solid base to mount speakers to. If you didn't get these spacers you or your installer would have to make a spacer ANYWAY. So you might as well make things easy on you or your installer for a mere 30 dollars.

-The spacer set comes with longer door card pins, so no worries here.
i don't see anything on their webpage that alludes to how deep of a driver you can use and how it comes with longer door card pins. doesn't even say how thick the spacers are.
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i think the large spacers are something like 3/4"
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