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Old 05-29-2006, 03:31 PM   #1
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Hey guys,

I recently got my clutch installed at PnL motorsports in IL. They resurfaced my stock flywheel and installed an exeddy stage 1 organic clutch. Right off the bat i noticed the clutch is alot stiffer and also in first gear at engagement I guess massive chatter that only more gas cures. In reverse also the chatter is ridiculous and is bad even when the car is revved to 2000.

My questions is, is this normal for a clutch as if wears in. I heard the tech talking to the other tech and hey mentioned the word flywheel and warped in some context that i couldnt make out. I am assuming that clutch chatter is caused by a non uniform flywheel surface. My plan is to wait to 600 miles and then go back there and tell them they didnt resurface my flywheel correctly if this chatter doesnt go away.

Any thoughts?

thanks
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Old 05-29-2006, 03:58 PM   #2
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Clutch shudder isn't normal for an organic clutch. Maybe if it were a ceramic clutch...

The news through the peanut gallery is that the Exedy single stage clutches are garbage.

The preceding statements are opinions. Your best bet is to try searching around in the transmisison forum.
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Old 05-29-2006, 04:48 PM   #3
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Clutch shudder isn't normal for an organic clutch. Maybe if it were a ceramic clutch...

The news through the peanut gallery is that the Exedy single stage clutches are garbage.

The preceding statements are opinions. Your best bet is to try searching around in the transmisison forum.
that comment was regarding exedy hyper single disc clutches(NOT OEM REPLACEMENTS)

as for your shudder, that is completely unacceptable, i would highly reccomend you taking it back. If your flywheel was indeed resurfaced then there's no reason you should any shudder at all.
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Old 05-29-2006, 04:51 PM   #4
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Did you speak to PnL? I would ask them what they think the best course of action would be.
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Old 05-29-2006, 07:14 PM   #5
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ok ill call them tomororw and see whats up... any other comments/suggestions?
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Old 05-29-2006, 07:33 PM   #6
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somehow, I think they'll know. (they know how to read lol)
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:09 PM   #7
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yah i figured lol
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Old 05-29-2006, 11:31 PM   #8
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Hey guys,

I recently got my clutch installed at PnL motorsports in IL. They resurfaced my stock flywheel and installed an exeddy stage 1 organic clutch. Right off the bat i noticed the clutch is alot stiffer and also in first gear at engagement I guess massive chatter that only more gas cures. In reverse also the chatter is ridiculous and is bad even when the car is revved to 2000.

My questions is, is this normal for a clutch as if wears in. I heard the tech talking to the other tech and hey mentioned the word flywheel and warped in some context that i couldnt make out. I am assuming that clutch chatter is caused by a non uniform flywheel surface. My plan is to wait to 600 miles and then go back there and tell them they didnt resurface my flywheel correctly if this chatter doesnt go away.

Any thoughts?

thanks
IIRC, your exact flywheel wasn't resurfaced and reused. There are others we have the machine shop use and things work on a "core" type basis.

As I'm sure you can expect. If the problem lies in a faulty, or mis-machined flywheel, it'll be resolved promptly.

Give the shop a call around 2PM tommorow. That way the tech who worked on the car can be available for a quick discussion on it.

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Old 05-29-2006, 11:38 PM   #9
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Ok cool Jorge, I will call tomorrow at 2.

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Old 05-29-2006, 11:47 PM   #10
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IIRC, your exact flywheel wasn't resurfaced and reused. There are others we have the machine shop use and things work on a "core" type basis.

As I'm sure you can expect. If the problem lies in a faulty, or mis-machined flywheel, it'll be resolved promptly.

Give the shop a call around 2PM tommorow. That way the tech who worked on the car can be available for a quick discussion on it.

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if that's the case they need to consider using another machine shop. using heads/blocks as cores is one thing but resurfacing flywheels which the manufacturer cosiders a wear item and non-resurfaceable is just inviting trouble. Any flywheel that hasn't been severly abused is usually good for at least 1 light cut but what's to say the flywheel they sent you hasn't been cut more then once or twice
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:24 AM   #11
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Unfortunatly Jeremy is right
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Old 05-30-2006, 11:56 AM   #12
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Well, had a little pow-wow with Paul this morning.

Up to this point we've never had a problem with resurfaced flywheels (do quite a few actually), and we offer it as an option to save a customer some $$$. But, if the community feels it's an issue, then from here on out, we'll only use fresh flywheels.

Jawwad, if things really aren't improving at all, no worries. We just need to discuss this afternoon what you'd like to do for a flywheel, and we'll go ahead and handle the labor for you.

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Old 05-30-2006, 12:17 PM   #13
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sounds good, ill call you later on this afternoon.

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Old 05-30-2006, 12:40 PM   #14
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hey Jorge,

I sent u a PM. Can u read it and get back to me.

thanks

Jawwad

{this is just incase u dont get PM notification)

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Well, had a little pow-wow with Paul this morning.

Up to this point we've never had a problem with resurfaced flywheels (do quite a few actually), and we offer it as an option to save a customer some $$$. But, if the community feels it's an issue, then from here on out, we'll only use fresh flywheels.

Jawwad, if things really aren't improving at all, no worries. We just need to discuss this afternoon what you'd like to do for a flywheel, and we'll go ahead and handle the labor for you.

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Old 05-30-2006, 04:16 PM   #15
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I took the advice of all of you guys and I bought a new OEM flywheel from subarugenuineparts.com for 198 shipped.

I would like to say that Jorge is awesome at customer service and stands behind his word and shop.

I am gonna take the car to PnL on monday and they will put in the flywheel free of charge.

I let you guys know how it turns out.

-Jawwad
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:57 PM   #16
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well I got the new oem flywheel, dropping it off at PnL tomorrow. Ill update you guys on the situation when its resolved. Hopefully it turns out well .

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Old 06-05-2006, 01:07 PM   #17
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No shop can do %100 perfect work all the time, nice to see P&L stand behind thier work like that.
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