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Old 05-29-2006, 04:45 PM   #1
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I haven't ordered any car parts from the States before and I was hoping someone might be able to provide me with some guidance before I do. My concern is specifically custom tariffs and duties. I've ordered other stuff from the States before and I always get gouged for like 25-50% in taxes. Just wondering if it's the same way for car parts.

I'm looking to order some wheels and gauges.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 05-29-2006, 04:49 PM   #2
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if your ordering wheels depending how your getting it shipped to might have to start bending over forwards and putting ur head between ur legs. But i've heard of some REAL smoking deals even with the hits on taxes and what not still a goo dprice due to the exchange rate and lower pricing in the states!

as for all the other little goodies its usually very easy to get back and forth with no extra fees.
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Old 05-29-2006, 06:42 PM   #3
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Make sure stuff doesn't get shipped with Fedex. I just got my bill for customs.
Value for tax $150 - so GST $10.50 (no problem)
- $27 us - Brokerage fees
- $5.35 - Disbursments
- total $45.54 for $150 package.

I've never had a problem with USPS, but everytime Fedex is involved, you better bend over and brace yourself.
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Old 05-29-2006, 06:48 PM   #4
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Avoid shipping through a courier if possible. They just hammer you with large brokerage fees. I always try and get evrything shipped through USPS. You will have to pay tax on lots of items but still not sure how that works because I only seem to pay tax randomly on parts form the States. 20-25% seems pretty high concidering GST is only 7%. Things I have recently recieved and didn't pay tax were; TMIC, intake pipe, ic hoses.
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:32 PM   #5
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for me ups is the absolute worst for border taxes. Avoid them at all costs. For the best rates use usps and if you purchase stuff from other people get them to mark it as a gift and it shouldn't cost you anything at the border.

Here's 2 examples of what ups charges as duties.

Used cell phone $80 Us shipped. Border tax $50 Canadian
Springs for car $180 Us shipped. Border tax $82 Canadian

Rediculous. Average about 50% for a border tax if you get stuff shipped through them.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:02 PM   #6
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DO NOT USE UPS! I ordered a ton of parts and they were all shipped ups. I didn't make out so well on the duties. Example: $300 gauge cluster = $90 in duties all said and done. My exhaust was over $1000 and I paid 120 in duties, not too bad on that one, but the smaller items hurt.
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Old 06-05-2006, 11:53 AM   #7
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Aside from the rip-off brokerage fees the shipping companies charge I think you are responsible for the applicable sales tax in your province (GST+PST) and any specific duty associated with the item. I believe the duty will depend on the type of item and place of manufacture. In my experience I usually get dinged the 15% sales tax (shipping to ontario) and they havent charged any import duty.

Has anyone been charged the import duty as well as the sales taxe(s)?
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:54 PM   #8
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yup, if it's made outside North America, and over $20, you should get charged duty on top of tax and brokerage.

USPS is always the best bet, but at least here in Winnipeg, we have the option to clear customs ourselves, and the Customs building is right around the corner from UPS. This means no insane brokerage fees from UPS. As an alternative, there is also a place just beyond the US border you can ship to, and pay all the fees yourself at the border.
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:40 PM   #9
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just ordered about $600 USD in oversized parts for my car and paid less than $40 in brokerage through USPS.

USPS ftw, final answer!
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Old 06-05-2006, 02:43 PM   #10
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what about used parts?
samething?
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:20 PM   #11
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I buy alot of stuff from the states and I found that it took sooo long to get my package across the border and through customs. Not only did it take longer to ship but also it cost a lot more, (not only because of brokerage fees and duty, but also because generally shipping within the states is free and as soon as it comes across the border you have to pay for it). If you live close to the border id recommend renting a mailbox or getting packages shipped to a ups warehouse. Thats what I do now and i save a bunch. If the seller is shipping usps i get the package shipped to my PO box, and if its being shipped UPS or any other courier service I ship to my UPS warehouse. Just a thought if you live close to the border and can go pick them up.

edit...sorry i didnt see that you live in edmonton...i guess driving down to the border isnt an option
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:29 PM   #12
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what about used parts?
samething?
make it a "GIFT" from the seller...pay nearly nothing on delivery...stick with USPS! FedEX and UPS
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:35 AM   #13
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Yea, you can ask the seller to put a lower amount for the part. But remember that you are only insured for the amount declared. I ask the seller sometimes
to lower the amount if it's 300$-400$ I will ask to lower it to 100$. I'm ready to take the lost if it get lost. But if it's 400$+ I won't take any chances. I
had only one bad experience doing this,...I was the seller and the buyer told me to lower the declared value.

BTW, using UPS, I always do my own brokerage. I save ~70% on the custom fees/duty.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:54 AM   #14
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Use USPS unless you can reasonably claim that the item is gift with a value of less than $50US.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:30 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by !gno
just ordered about $600 USD in oversized parts for my car and paid less than $40 in brokerage through USPS.

USPS ftw, final answer!
Really?
I bought some shoes ($70USD off ebay); was shipped USPS, then the Canadain Border Service agency billed me $43 CAD for a pair of shoes that were only worth (including the cost of shipping) $100CAD. So my faith in USPS is questionable.

Well, I'm gonna buy some lube, since a vendor just emailed me today saying their shipping my complete set of brakes via FEDEX :S
I'll let you know how bad it'll be. (prays I won't raped too hard)
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:51 AM   #16
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I have gotten lots of stuff shipped from US to Canada and USPS is absolutly the best to use.
USPS: No brokerage fee
FedEx: US$100 value, CAD 45 in brokerage fee.

SO far I have not yet paid my FedEx bill. I find it robbery at daylight that they can do this. When I called and complained the answer was: That's our fee for the service.
Excuse me, WHAT SERVICE??
It's a no-brainer for them to import. They know the rules and apply the 7% GST. And then make a fortune on the fees. Robbers that is what they are. Guess they can not make a living on the shipment fee alone so this is their way of cashing in.
I thought getting a FedEx account would help out, but NO. You can only use the account to ship; when you receive that just too bad for you and too good for FedEx.

I always request my vendors to use USPS. If they can not provide that service, I find another place to do my buisiness.

BTW. all I have ever paid from shipped equipment; audio equipment, electronics, car parts, photo equipment etc. has been 7%.

IF you get items shipped with FedEx you can ask the shipper to write on the box: RECEIVER WILL CLEAR CUSTOMS HIMSELF. But that requires you to go to the NE customs office in person and pay the 7%.

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Old 06-21-2006, 03:11 PM   #17
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Really?
I bought some shoes ($70USD off ebay); was shipped USPS, then the Canadain Border Service agency billed me $43 CAD for a pair of shoes that were only worth (including the cost of shipping) $100CAD. So my faith in USPS is questionable.
You actually didn't pay much in brokerage. Odds are it was 5 bucks in brokerage, which means you spent way less than any of the other shipping methods.

The reason you paid so much is the duty on shoes is ridiculously high. Those charges are assessed by customs, not USPS.
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Old 06-21-2006, 03:16 PM   #18
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I have gotten lots of stuff shipped from US to Canada and USPS is absolutly the best to use.
USPS: No brokerage fee
FedEx: US$100 value, CAD 45 in brokerage fee.
It's actually a flat-rate $5 "processing fee" that Canada Post charges. Of course, on any item of value, that's peanuts.

http://canadaonline.about.com/cs/cus...ipcanada_2.htm

And on more than one occasion Canada Post has been so inept that they managed to forget to charge me either duty or taxes on some fairly expensive items I've had shipped from the states.
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Old 06-21-2006, 06:32 PM   #19
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I agree with USPS being the way to go.

The $5 fee is typical, and sometimes I've been dinged with GST, but the brokerage fees that FedEx or the Brown Devil (UPS) will charge you will typically be WAY more than the GST on the item.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:44 PM   #20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GC84ever
Well, I'm gonna buy some lube, since a vendor just emailed me today saying their shipping my complete set of brakes via FEDEX :S
I'll let you know how bad it'll be. (prays I won't raped too hard)
Update:

Ok. I got my brakes last week. But some one miscounted, so I have to wait 6 weeks for my rears (no biggy).
Today I got a bill from FEDEX.
front brakes only: value $500 USD

fees on bill
GST : 39.07
brokerage : 47.08
disbursement : 6.15
Total : 84.10 USD = 92.30CAD

To be honest I thought it would have been worse.
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:13 AM   #21
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Quote:
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fees on bill
GST : 39.07
brokerage : 47.08
disbursement : 6.15
Total : 84.10 USD = 92.30CAD
If you had gone USPS, the bill would have been minus your brokerage & disbursement charges and plus $5 for Handling fee from Canada Post.
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:25 AM   #22
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Quote:
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If you had gone USPS, the bill would have been minus your brokerage & disbursement charges and plus $5 for Handling fee from Canada Post.
Not to quibble but I think they raised it to $7 ($9?)

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Old 10-19-2006, 02:25 AM   #23
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Just though I'll add a bit of info to this thread
I just bought some endlinks from MauroMotorsports.
The grand total was $103 USD.
They were shipped via DHL Express
Fees I had to pay:
Duty: 2.93
GST: 5.20
Processing: 7.00
So I think now it'll be DHL or USPS from now on.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:19 AM   #24
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I have had DHL bend me over a couple times in the past

$100 for my intake and I got charged $50 duty.

I will forever be reliant on USPS.
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Old 10-19-2006, 03:23 PM   #25
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Alternatively, send everything to your buddy in Seattle, drive down, drink cheap beer for a week, see some shows and then drive back. Anything to declare? Sure, I got this here box of crap for $20 in beer. Move along...
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