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Old 01-25-2001, 06:20 PM   #1
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Question Rear sway bar???

Does anyone have expierence with an after-market rear sway bar for the MY 00+ wagons? or any '00+??? I want to buy something that has been done already, I don't wanna be a guinne pig.
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Old 01-26-2001, 07:40 AM   #2
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I have a Whiteline Adjustable for my 2000 GT sedan. I purchased it through Rallispec (for a good price too), and it was no problem to install. I'd give Andy or Dave a call and see about one for your wagon. It may take a while cause they are shipped from Australia (Whiteline's home).
Rallispec's # is (856) 755-9009.

Make sure you have some other questions cause they are chock-full of answers!

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Old 01-26-2001, 10:30 AM   #3
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Don't worry, lots of wagon owners already have the Whiteline adjustable bar. Works great. One of the best-bang-for-the-buck mod for your wagon.

You can also get Whietline stuff from Dale Teague.

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Old 01-26-2001, 10:40 AM   #4
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I agree... I got just the 20mm (fixed)... It seems I was Rallispec's guinea-pig... Everything fits fine and it makes an amazing difference...

Even in 3" of snow the 20mm was very controllable, not too much power-oversteer...

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Old 01-26-2001, 02:11 PM   #5
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Mike - I *do* have a wagon, so we don't have that much in common... It was really easy to get (got it in September 1999), great price and the exact color I wanted...

I think my "20mm Liberty bar" was the first that Rallispec got in... they were not even sure at the time that it would even fit our cars...

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Old 01-26-2001, 02:30 PM   #6
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A wagon!?! Awww... pbbbtt.
j/k

I just feel so alone... being a 2000 GT sedan *sniff*... i guess I'm unique, having the newer styling and no scoop (or dead cow...er leather ).

Well, rock on w/ your wagon!

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Old 01-26-2001, 03:00 PM   #7
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Well hey at least you guys got the GT model. I had to settle for the "L" but with new sway bar,struts,springs,17"rims, ground f-x pkg, and engine mods I could not afford to do those things after shelling for all the extras like 16" rims, plastic wood trim, side skirts, LSD, and 2 sun roofs that th GT came with.
I hope to order the bar in the next week.
thanks for the help
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Old 01-26-2001, 03:09 PM   #8
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Mike2000GT,

I am with you in the sedan league.
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Old 01-27-2001, 12:56 AM   #9
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Randy,

When'd you get yours? I got my adjustable back in October. How you like it? I can't believe that these cars come with such a small bar to start. The 18mm setting REALLY mad a heck of a difference.

I can't wait to bump it up to 20mm. (22 for track days. rool: )

Heh, you and I are a rare brew... 2k GTs (not LIMITEDS). How hard was it to get your Leg?

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Old 01-29-2001, 10:29 AM   #10
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Well hey at least you guys got the GT model. I had to settle for the "L" but with new sway bar,struts,springs,17"rims, ground f-x pkg, and engine mods I could not afford to do those things after shelling for all the extras like 16" rims, plastic wood trim, side skirts, LSD, and 2 sun roofs that th GT came with.
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I wouldn't exactly call that settling for an "L". If you (like me) are going to create your own car, you are wasting your $$ on a GT (unless ya gotta have the roof/wood/LSD). Besides, lighter is faster, and the GT certainly is not a light car.

Yep, the sway bar is the first thing you should do on your car. Your stock bar is 14mm, the Whiteline bar is 20mm (although it can be set at 18mm - 22mm equivalents).

I started off at 20mm and loved it in the dry/rain. In heavy snow, the car would power oversteer something dramatic. It was a total ball to drive, but taking up two lanes of traffic going sideways wasn't very practical. I disconnected the rear bar, and still had fun sliding sideways under power, but at least I could keep it in one lane. The bar did brush against the axle in this position (Hmmm). Currently I have it set back at 18mm, but haven't gotten heavy snow since then.

You are comfortable with a touch of trailing throttle oversteer, right?


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Old 01-29-2001, 01:12 PM   #11
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MX5 those reasons that you mentioned are why I bought the L. Also I do not like the new GT "chrome" grill. I will be ordering my sway bar this week, whiteline. Next shopping stop will be for springs. I am leaning towards the STi. I ask, who would have the best R&D for the new suspension set up other than STi? They might be on the expensive side but I have not heard of any complaints from buyers.
Tim
P.S. in the literature it statest that the GT has a "sports tuned suspension" I checked in with the parts guy at my local dealership, and according to him all of the parts were the same #'s. So what does this mean?
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Old 01-29-2001, 01:27 PM   #12
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in the literature it statest that the GT has a "sports tuned suspension" I checked in with the parts guy at my local dealership, and according to him all of the parts were the same #'s. So what does this mean?
I have wondered that myself. According to people here, the GT comes with a 16mm rear sway bar (the pre 2000 models at least). I know my car came with a 14mm rear sway, and the rear bar was a no brainer for performance.

It would be interesting to know if the springs are different, but I doubt much else is different.

If you are going to change the springs, you probably want to change the shocks. I haven't driven many OEM cars where the shocks are much good after 30K miles. I rather doubt that the OEM shocks would be a good match for stiffer springs.
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Old 01-29-2001, 04:19 PM   #13
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Mx5- My plan is to upgrade the springs yet this spring. I have heard that the "stock" strut set up is not great by any means but will be able to handle the new springs for awhile. Not to mention that I have 600 miles on them, and the entire car! Hopefully after my National Guard check comes in this summer I will be able to get a set of KYB's AGX struts and some Team Loco 17" rims with Khumo's. I understand that the Loco's are on the heavy side but right now I have steels with hubcaps. THEY HAVE TO GO!
I will keep everyone updated as the car gets transformed from a lowly 'L' to a GT+.
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Old 01-30-2001, 11:06 AM   #14
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I'm probably overstating the obvious, but labor wise - it is a lot easier to change the shocks and springs together (it is twice the work to do them seperately) and it is a fair amount of labor.
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Old 01-30-2001, 06:23 PM   #15
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You would be correct, but being a high school teacher has its advantages! can you say free hydraulic lift, air tools, spring compressors, and 10 free assistants! I don't teach for the money, there is none!
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