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Old 06-02-2006, 08:23 PM   #1
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So short shifters seem to be one of the most popular mods out there and I'm a little confused as to why. I totally get replacing the bushings and I'm about to do so. But why do I care if the stick is 1" shorter and the throw is a little shorter? I must be missing something here, tell me what it is!

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Old 06-02-2006, 08:28 PM   #2
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shorter throw and crisper feel. thats about all the reason you need for a cheap diy mod.
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Old 06-02-2006, 08:30 PM   #3
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Why does it feel crisper? I thought that came from the bushings?

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Old 06-02-2006, 08:31 PM   #4
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i dunno, it just does. install it and see for yourself =P
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:33 PM   #5
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I was in the driver's seat a friend's 06 Jetta GLI 6 Spd recently. The shifter throw was like rowing a boat though oatmeal... no feeling whatsoever.

I have the Kartboy shifter, F&R bushings & knob in my wagon. My GLI driving friend HATED the feeling of it because it was so notchy.

To each their own I guess...

(On a side note, I almost put my foot through the floorboard of the GLI because the clutch pedal was so soft compared to my wagon's )
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Old 06-02-2006, 10:10 PM   #6
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Shorter = less movement, more effort, more positive, less vague

You can get the Cobb double adjustable and make the bottom end shorter but make the top side longer. Some Rally/Rally Cross guys have short on the bottom and very long extensions added to the top side so that the shifter is close to the wheel for very quick changes ... but of course if the top is long ... movement will be longer also, partially made up by the shorter lower/bottom movement.
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Old 06-03-2006, 02:00 AM   #7
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Just remember that the full name is usually "short throw shifter"; with the throw being the important part of it. It isn't so much about height IMO. And decreasing how far you have to move the shifter from 1st to 2nd can make a big difference in feel itself.

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Old 06-03-2006, 03:38 AM   #8
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I also wasn't sure about doing a short-throw. I was worried about the stick being farther away from my hand. The thing is, with the Kartboy short shifter and bushings front and rear, I changed how I shifted. Instead of banging gears trucker style, it was more like a wrist flick. That shorter throw meant I wasn't using my shoulder as much to make each change. See if someone near you will let you drive theirs a bit. If you do like it, it's the only mod you get to enjoy no matter what kind of driving you're doing.
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:46 AM   #9
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I'd add the RevLab quick ratio steering rack that I use to have in my SM WRX, before it went back to STX ... :-(
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:51 AM   #10
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Why wouldnt you want a short shift? The driver is the slowest thing in the car. Anything to speed that help makes a major difference.

The faster you can shift the car that faster the car will go. In the 1/4 mile for example a short shift with the same driver can make .2+ of a difference. Thats huge. For autox thats an even bigger difference.

The kartboy doesnt lower the stick as much as it decreases the actual throw. So you only have to move the 60% of the distance you did when it was stock. Big difference.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:00 PM   #11
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Ty
i dont know how close you are to Turn in concepts but you might want to give those guys an email. they are in OH also. Clint and the gang can show you what its all about.

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Old 06-03-2006, 12:07 PM   #12
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TiC is quite a ways away if I understand correctly where it is. However, I am following that logic and asked the local owners club if anybody's got one.

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Old 06-03-2006, 12:40 PM   #13
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TiC is quite a ways away if I understand correctly where it is. However, I am following that logic and asked the local owners club if anybody's got one.

Ty

excellent idea!

no matter what shifter you get, make sure to get the shifter bushings. heck give the shifter bushings a try first if you are happy with the throws now. they will "firm" up the shifter feel quite a bit.

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Old 06-03-2006, 10:51 PM   #14
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I did just the KB shifter bushings and stopped there . They really increased the feel and crispness without changing the throw .
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