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Old 06-04-2006, 08:16 PM   #1
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Default Wagon is using oil...stock turbo b0rked?

The wagon started using oil last week. We went through about half a quart on our drive up to PA, which is 200 miles. I had to keep feeding her to make it through the weekend.

- There is no oil leaking anywhere in the engine bay, oil pan, oil filter area, or anywhere else I can see.

- There is no smoke from the engine bay.

- There is no smell.

- There is no smoke coming from the exhaust that anyone noticed over the weekend.

I took the following pics of the turbo outlet today when I pulled the TMIC:




A wipe inside the turbo outlet with a paper towel:


Have the seals gone in the turbo? What else can I check?
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Old 06-04-2006, 08:50 PM   #2
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That doesn't look too terrible considering the mileage.
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Old 06-04-2006, 10:47 PM   #3
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No, that looks about normal. You better just swap a V7 drivetrain to cover all your bases.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:13 PM   #4
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How did you catch loss of oil over only 200 miles? do you check your oil every ten minutes!? Oh nevermind I think I misread.


very suprising to have a bad turbo seal and not see smoke out the back. Have someone folllow you and get on the gas.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:45 PM   #5
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how many cats are still in place? im thinking if all 3 are still there, they might be able to burn off all the oil smoke if its being leaked from the turbo.

oh, and since youre home, put some cardboard under the car overnight to check for leaks you might have missed.

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Old 06-04-2006, 11:57 PM   #6
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Its how you hump your car.
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Old 06-05-2006, 06:21 AM   #7
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Oil was full when we left MD and oil was down 1/2 quart when we were leaving PA the next morning.

The car is catless.

We had people following us all weekend at STPR and no one reported any smoke.
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Old 06-05-2006, 06:21 AM   #8
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geesh...I know that

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Old 06-05-2006, 11:25 AM   #9
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So yeh, this sucks.
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Old 06-05-2006, 11:41 AM   #10
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Is the back of the car covered in an oil film?
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Old 06-05-2006, 11:43 AM   #11
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You should grab a catch can for good measures...but that is still a lot of oil. Maybe one of the "oil gremlins" snuck under you hood when you weren't looking:



NOTE: They are indigenous to MAIC and are closely related to the "Right Sock Gremlin" who is also from this area.
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Old 06-05-2006, 11:50 AM   #12
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Is the back of the car covered in an oil film?
Nope, and the inside of the exhaust tip is just sooty, not filmy or greasy.

I'm confused.
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:09 PM   #13
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PCV Valve?
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:11 PM   #14
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PCV Valve?
I'm going to change that next weekend when we do the 60k service.

I didn't even know what it does...it can leak/cause me to use that much oil?
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:20 PM   #15
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I think that we're not getting accurate readings on the oil level. Each time it was measured it was at a different temperature...
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:22 PM   #16
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I think that we're not getting accurate readings on the oil level. Each time it was measured it was at a different temperature...
Well I've put two quarts in it since Thursday...even if it's full right now...where did the two quarts go?
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:26 PM   #17
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Well I've put two quarts in it since Thursday...even if it's full right now...where did the two quarts go?
You have to fill it from the pipe under the yellow 710 cap in the engine bay, NOT from the gas-hole.
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:29 PM   #18
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You have to fill it from the pipe under the yellow 710 cap in the engine bay, NOT from the gas-hole.
You're a gas-hole!

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Old 06-05-2006, 03:10 PM   #19
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Hrm, to use 2 quarts via PCV would be impressive, but not impossible. Last time my car was using a lot of oil it was due to stuck piston oil rings, but I had a fine black powder all over the back of the car which was all carbon from burning up the oil. PCV is cheap and pretty easy to replace, just be sure to use a Subaru OEM one, not aftermarket. The aftermarket ones I've seen are pretty sucky and don't really do a good job.

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Old 06-05-2006, 03:32 PM   #20
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Well I've put two quarts in it since Thursday...even if it's full right now...where did the two quarts go?
This is going to sound stupid.....but you are letting the car sit for a good while before checking, riiiight?
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:38 PM   #21
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This is going to sound stupid.....but you are letting the car sit for a good while before checking, riiiight?
What are you doing out of OT?
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:40 PM   #22
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Hrm, to use 2 quarts via PCV would be impressive, but not impossible. Last time my car was using a lot of oil it was due to stuck piston oil rings, but I had a fine black powder all over the back of the car which was all carbon from burning up the oil. PCV is cheap and pretty easy to replace, just be sure to use a Subaru OEM one, not aftermarket. The aftermarket ones I've seen are pretty sucky and don't really do a good job.

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That 2 quarts is in about 800 miles of driving. We were at STPR over the weekend.

I was letting it cool as much as possible...most times measurements were taken first thing in the morning with the car sitting overnight.
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I'm sorry....there was this opening in the curtain....and so I looked through and.....well, here I am.
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