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Old 06-05-2006, 03:36 AM   #1
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Default Oil Analysis: 7500mi on M1 10w30 - WRX

7500mi on 10w30, burned about a quart of oil, but looks like I can easily run longer on the oil!



Link to discussion on BITOG: http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/...c;f=3;t=003533
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:41 AM   #2
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wow nice. mods?
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:50 AM   #3
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Prodrive axleback, IC hoses, ported IC elbows, so it's basically stock. Mostly freeway miles helps, too, with a daily commute of 20 miles which takes about 25 minutes.
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:56 AM   #4
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not bad. i'm gonna have to send them a sample of my oil pretty soon.
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Old 06-05-2006, 07:38 AM   #5
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Nice!!

I love this stuff. The hell with that 3,000 mile crap.
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:33 AM   #6
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You always have some of the best results with M1 in a turbo Sube out there! The freeway driving does help. Although if you go much farther on the OCI you'll be in 20 weight territory (not necessarily a big deal, as you know, depending on your comfort level). Are you going to shoot for 8,500?

Great comments by Blackstone.

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Old 06-05-2006, 09:46 AM   #7
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Yeah, I think I'll try 8500 this time.

I don't think the oil will thin out any more. If anything, it should thicken up a bit with more miles. Typically oil will thin out the first couple thousand miles as it shears a bit, then start thickening up as the lighter parts of the oil start burning off/evaporating. If you sample the oil at 2-3k miles, that's probably about as thin as it'll get.

BTW, I added a link to my BITOG discussion in the 1st post. It has all my analysis results in a chart.

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Old 06-05-2006, 11:06 AM   #8
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I don't think the oil will thin out any more. If anything, it should thicken up a bit with more miles.
I always forget about the rethickening. I suppose it would take numerous UOA's to find the exact mileage an oil thickens back up.

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Old 06-05-2006, 11:47 AM   #9
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I always forget about the rethickening. I suppose it would take numerous UOA's to find the exact mileage an oil thickens back up.
Not to mention the amount of thinning and thickening will vary with driving conditions. A lot of short trips and the oil will "thin" out sooner as water/fuel build up in the oil. High RPMs and heat will beat the oil more and thin it out. Steady moderate speed freeway is probably easiest on the oil, you may not see much thinning at all.

The wider the weight spread of the oil, the more it will thin out and thicken back up, too. A 5w40 will shear more than a 5w30 given that the base stock is similar.
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:38 AM   #10
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I just sent my sample out to those guys.
I went 9000 on pennzoil platinum full synth 5-30. Hope the results are as good
as his.

One question.
Do you guys use the bigger oil filter or the subaru oem smaller one.
The Napa gold one I get is about an inch in diameter bigger compared to oem.

I've heard the oem is now smaller because of the header being so close to it, they think it heats the filter unnecessarily.
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I just sent my sample out to those guys.
I went 9000 on pennzoil platinum full synth 5-30. Hope the results are as good
as his.

One question.
Do you guys use the bigger oil filter or the subaru oem smaller one.
The Napa gold one I get is about an inch in diameter bigger compared to oem.

I've heard the oem is now smaller because of the header being so close to it, they think it heats the filter unnecessarily.
fwiw i'm usin the oem oil filter.
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:38 PM   #12
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I just sent my sample out to those guys.
I went 9000 on pennzoil platinum full synth 5-30. Hope the results are as good
as his.

One question.
Do you guys use the bigger oil filter or the subaru oem smaller one.
The Napa gold one I get is about an inch in diameter bigger compared to oem.

I've heard the oem is now smaller because of the header being so close to it, they think it heats the filter unnecessarily.
9,000 miles on Pennzoil 5W30? I presume you're no longer under warranty.

IIRC, drees has always received great results with an OEM air and oil filter (i.e. smaller for turbos). I'm not sure what all the carrying on is about with chopping up filters searching for the perfect filtering media, when OEM works well.

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Old 06-07-2006, 04:55 PM   #13
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Besides OEM air/oil filters, I've also tried Amsoil foam air filter, Purolator oil filter, the generic filter from PepBoys (same as Purolator as far as I can tell). I think I even had a Fram in there when the car was nearly new. They all seem to work about the same, so I just stock up on OEM units from Jamie/SubieGal @ subarugenuineparts.com every now and then.

9000mi shouldn't be a problem on any good synthetic, but it depends a lot on driving conditions. If you race from every stoplight and around every corner, it might not do as well. My main concern with extended drain intervals is worrying about filling/clogging up the oil filter, but don't want to break one open to find out how clogged it is. If I get to that point, I figure if you're going to change the filter might as well change the oil while you're in there since the filter is the only messy part of the oil change.
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ryguy, when are you expecting your results? Giving Pennzoil Platinum a try myself...
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My main concern with extended drain intervals is worrying about filling/clogging up the oil filter, but don't want to break one open to find out how clogged it is. If I get to that point, I figure if you're going to change the filter might as well change the oil while you're in there since the filter is the only messy part of the oil change.
so you risk clogging the oil filter by running it 7k+ miles because you don't want to make a mess? I always change the oil filter half way through the interval, if you do it when the engine/oil is cold it's really not that bad. I go between 8-10K with whatever oil/air filter is available and all UOA's have checked in just dandy (cept the KandN, got some high silicon on those intervals so i stay away from that now).
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