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Old 06-06-2006, 08:47 PM   #1
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Default Anyone in Burnaby interested in taking a peek at a car for me?

Hi guys,

So I'm in the market for a new ride, and there's one I'm interested in at a place called Miracle Auto sales in Burnaby. It's a 92 Toyota Celica Alltrac (white) that I found while searching on Canadatrader.com. If anyone happens to be in the area one day, would you be interested in going and kicking the tires for me? (I'm kind of out of town... way out of town actually!)

Don't bother talking to the salesman or anything, just a quick look for dents, rust, and whatever the mileage is if you can see. I noticed they have an NSX and a nice black Supra for sale too if anyone's looking.

And that's it! Thanks scooby pals! Hope to hear from you here!

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Old 06-06-2006, 08:52 PM   #2
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I would suggest you look elsewhere. Miracle Auto has a pretty bad reputation for selling crappy cars.

I think on a CBC news coverage awhile back on shady kingsway dealerships, they discovered a low mileage toyota camry that was previously a taxi cab with over 200 000km's. Supposedly vancouver has the highest fraudelant car dealership in Canada.

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Old 06-06-2006, 08:52 PM   #3
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here is the scoop on Miracle:

Some awesome deals, some cool cars, sales people that outright lie, some of the cars have major issues, alot of the cars are from the US, and some cars have rebiult status.

Having said that, there are a few people that have had great experiences with them, but i would say more that havent.

So what i am saying is its cool to have somoene check it out, but dont bother with buying from them unless you are able to come down here and analyze the car with a fine tooth comb.
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:35 PM   #4
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Miracle auto bad. Burnaby car dealerships bad.
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:38 PM   #5
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Miracle Auto (Thumbs Down)
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:11 PM   #6
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that place is 5 minutes from my house, they're constantly getting new crap in/out of there, I've been in there twice and both times the sales people have straight up lied to me about the car's history/value (sometimes you can just tell a car has been in an accident...)
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:45 PM   #7
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Stay Away!!! Stay Away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:52 PM   #8
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Miracle is funny, one time I went to look at a non-turbo Rx7. It had one of those ricer aftermarket breathers and the salesguy points to it and says "blow-off valves" . I didn't even know how to respond it was so funny.
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Old 06-06-2006, 11:22 PM   #9
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Miracle is funny, one time I went to look at a non-turbo Rx7. It had one of those ricer aftermarket breathers and the salesguy points to it and says "blow-off valves" . I didn't even know how to respond it was so funny.
Oh god...yeah that place is trouble!
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Old 06-06-2006, 11:23 PM   #10
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that place is 5 minutes from my house, they're constantly getting new crap in/out of there, I've been in there twice and both times the sales people have straight up lied to me about the car's history/value (sometimes you can just tell a car has been in an accident...)
I thought you lived on the Island...or is the Burnaby house your grow-op? hehe j/k Paul
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:17 AM   #11
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Most of their cars are from across the country and cannot be traced...HHHMMMMM??? Wonder why??
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:39 AM   #12
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So I'm in the market for a new ride, and there's one I'm interested in at a place called Miracle Auto sales in Burnaby. It's a 92 Toyota Celica Alltrac (white) that I found while searching on Canadatrader.com
That car's been advertised there for QUITE a long while.
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:05 AM   #13
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I thought you lived on the Island...or is the Burnaby house your grow-op? hehe j/k Paul
look at the location in my profile
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lol, bby is my original home- I go to school in vic
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:13 AM   #14
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lol, bby is my original home- I go to school in vic
I know Paul...I'm just teasing you. Heck, I was born and raised in Surrey! Now live in Westend though.
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Old 06-07-2006, 05:48 AM   #15
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yep! i would try to look else where... but then again.. some of my friends have told me that many used car dealerships will change your mileage to what ever you like for like 200bucks or something... where they got this info i do not know.. but seems like there is a lot of negative feedback on used car dealerships.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:47 AM   #16
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Besides authorized new car dealers, are there ANY used car dealers that are any good to deal with? From what I have heard, I found none, and yet they are the ones that have the popular cars - MR2, FDs, FCs, NSX, Supra, M3s, you name it. Is this the nature of the business that promotes fraud? And what's the deal with someone like 888 who got their license revoked and widely reports on the news paper and yet they are still putting up ads? My conclusion is that if you buy used, you either buy from an authorized new car dealership or buy private, unless of course you happens to be a detective and don't mind going thru all the dirty work inspecting the car yourself.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:37 PM   #17
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Ohhh.. so it's one of those places...

Hrmm.. oh well easy come easy go I guess. Come to think of it, as was noted above, most of those cars have been for sale on Canadatrader there for quite some time. Should have been my first subtle warning I guess!

Anyways, coming out for a visit pretty quick, maybe I'll check the place out just for a laugh or two. Kind of feel sorry for the Subaru's they have for sale though.

Thanks much for the replies however!!
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:27 AM   #18
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Coming all the way from Yellowknife eh? Hey, do you have one of those polar bear licence plates on your Subie? Always wanted one of those.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:18 AM   #19
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i almost bought an RS from miracle auto


good thing i had it inspected first...


i'd say its a crap shoot. if you're really interested in the car (which i saw there, months ago btw) i'd suggest getting it inspected by BCAA. well worth the $150 IMO
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:23 AM   #20
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i almost bought an RS from miracle auto


good thing i had it inspected first...


i'd say its a crap shoot. if you're really interested in the car (which i saw there, months ago btw) i'd suggest getting it inspected by BCAA. well worth the $150 IMO
there are some things that bcaa doesnt check though. and all those scamming used dealerships know what bcaa checks and fix those, and leave the other ones hidden for your surprise. So bcaa isnt really the best option, but at least its a good one
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:24 PM   #21
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If I ever do any kind of dealing, I take my own trusted mechanic - but bottom line is that the odds are against me in not getting scammed
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Old 06-08-2006, 01:22 PM   #22
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Hey you know what...

I've just been to that place 2 weeks ago......I will tell you don't even border, Cos all the great cars you see on Canadatrader.com from them...RX7s......Supras...NSXs.......
2 are from the states, 2 are not original paints cos i can still see the old paint all over the cars....
and the supra........

you know......
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:20 PM   #23
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1) They know there is a demand for these cars
2) They intend to make a killing
3) They will do whatever it takes to make you willingly pay more than you should

Isn't that the typical used car dealership model?
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Old 06-09-2006, 05:51 AM   #24
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there are some things that bcaa doesnt check though. and all those scamming used dealerships know what bcaa checks and fix those, and leave the other ones hidden for your surprise. So bcaa isnt really the best option, but at least its a good one
miracle auto left a wornout wheel bearing on the car, and a few other things...
the BCAA guy found a long long list of faults, and to quote the salesman "Wow its (the report) better than i expected"...


just say no to miracle auto
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