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Old 10-14-2001, 02:49 AM   #1
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I am looking to to a turbo kit on MY01 2.5RS but know jack schitt about turbos. I need it to be very reliable cause it's my daily driver(like no problems and check engine lights). All my friends have supercharged civics and integras so I'd like to beat them. Which kit(s) are the best, how much will it run, and any other info is good too. What other parts do I need? Any complete kits? I would like a front mount i/c just to scare so people Thanks for the help!!

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Old 10-14-2001, 02:51 AM   #2
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shiv's vishnu kit.

period.
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Old 10-14-2001, 12:45 PM   #3
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Please do a search because this same question has been asked Up-Teen Times on here. But to answer your question Briefly. No FMIC without Dough. Stick with TMIC and a budget of $5000 and you'll be fine. $3400 for the kit, $1600 for electronics, installation, and tuning. Considering your car is a 2001, you won't be able to use S-AFC unless you use some huge injectors, Maybe 720cc or bigger and tune it in the negative region. Because I believe the S-AFC conflicts with the Stock ECU above +5% or something like that. Ignition timing may now be controlled using Electromotive's Stand Alone Ignition Controller, add a fuel pump, regulator, and a few things here and there and it'll work. Money is the key. $6000 and you get a bad ass Turbo kit and the Tec 2 to make it work properly.

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Old 10-14-2001, 02:06 PM   #4
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For $6000, what kind of 1/4 mile times will I be looking at??
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Old 10-14-2001, 03:03 PM   #5
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Well... With the TEC 2 and a good turbo setup, you'll have enough flexibility to make 400+ HP easily. The only thing restricting that though are your engine internals and your tranny. But, with careful tuning and cautious driving habits, expect high 12's to low 13's with what you currently have.

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Old 10-14-2001, 04:17 PM   #6
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Im in the same situation as White01, but I dont have the funds for $6000. I want a basic turbo kit that will run me about 250hp, not 400hp. My friend has a rebuilt T-3 for sale for $500. I figuered that for the rest of the kit I was looking about another $1500. Am I that far off? If I only want to run like 5-7psi now, does that mean I have to use a intercooler or can I add that later? Is there anything I can leave out now and add later so I can save more money?
Sorry White01 for asking so many questions, I thought they would be useful.
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Old 10-14-2001, 06:38 PM   #7
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You aren't going to run 7psi without an intercooler. To everyone trying to put a turbo on their RS cheaply, you are taking a huge risk. Doing it cheaply is how people usually blow their motors. The cost to rebuilt your engine may offset any money you thought you saved by not doing things right in the first place.


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Old 10-14-2001, 11:02 PM   #8
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Your right and I understand that, but what are my options if I dont have the money saved but I can afford monthly payments. I love my car and I have been wanting to put a turbo on it for over a year now, but I havent had the cash. The WRX seems to be my only option as of now. What about running 3-5 psi untill I have the money for the intercooler? How much would a basic kit be then?
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Old 10-14-2001, 11:24 PM   #9
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Your right and I understand that, but what are my options if I dont have the money saved but I can afford monthly payments. I love my car and I have been wanting to put a turbo on it for over a year now, but I havent had the cash. The WRX seems to be my only option as of now. What about running 3-5 psi untill I have the money for the intercooler? How much would a basic kit be then?
Dude, just DONT do it, if you're not going to do it right. We've all been around this block before. Trust us, it doesn't look pretty.
Figure ATLEAST 4-5,000 to do it RIGHT.
Turbo / wastegate
piping
intercooler (a must)
oil/coolant lines
GAUGES (boost, egt, Oil pressure are most common)
fueling (parallel setup, and higher pressure via pump and FPR)
Some sort of timing and fuel management IF you're not going full EMS
and a clutch Why make all that power if all it does is make your clutch smoke up?
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Old 10-14-2001, 11:36 PM   #10
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I love my car and I have been wanting to put a turbo on it for over a year now, but I havent had the cash.
Then don't get a turbo. I've wanted a Porsche 996 turbo for over a year, too, but you won't see me driving one any time soon.

I can almost guarantee you that if you half-ass a turbo on your car, you will blow the engine and the repair costs combined with the cost of the turbo will exceed the cost of a quality kit. This doesn't even address the need for a new clutch and the fact that you are likely to break gears in your transmission.

Is it sinking in yet that you CANNOT turbo an EJ25 inexpensively and expect it to stay together?


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Old 10-14-2001, 11:40 PM   #11
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Allow me to pile on.

Even if you do it right, you'll still have used up most of the safety margin of your motor. So make sure your last $2,000 is safe in the bank just in case. Murphy's law guarantees that if you max out all your credit cards getting the car built, you'll end up with a tankfull of 87 from an unscrupulous gas station, or a freak miscast piston or some other unexpected happening that will make you hate life.
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Old 10-14-2001, 11:56 PM   #12
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So basically I should just sell my 01 with 9300 miles on it and use the $5-6000 for an aftermarket turbo and get a WRX with a warrenty??
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Old 10-15-2001, 12:03 AM   #13
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So basically I should just sell my 01 with 9300 miles on it and use the $5-6000 for an aftermarket turbo and get a WRX with a warrenty??
Only if you sell it to me for $3.50

Just keep the car man. It's a sweet ride, and once your car is out of warranty, or close to it. Do an engine swap, or better yet turbo that torque-monster right
By that time there will be alot of WRX engines available (no-one argue with me on this. Ive seen some stup!@ people buying rexs only to wreck them the next day on the onramp or whatever)
OR you will have been able to save up some $$ to do the kit right.

Why lose out on selling a new car, to get a new car, because you want more power with a warranty. When you KNOW you will end up modifying that wrx and voiding your warranty anyways?
Dont lie, I mean, you're already here on the iclub asking about turbos. Your boost happy
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Old 10-15-2001, 12:22 AM   #14
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I'm sick of not being able to keep up with all my Jackson Racing friends. I'm the slowest in the car club with my RS and need more. I can get them all off the line but after that.......All I see is Altezza taillights So basically I want a show car because we go to about 6 or 7 shows over the summer but I need so SPEED
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Old 10-15-2001, 12:31 AM   #15
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I'm sick of not being able to keep up with all my Jackson Racing friends. I'm the slowest in the car club with my RS and need more. I can get them all off the line but after that.......All I see is Altezza taillights So basically I want a show car because we go to about 6 or 7 shows over the summer but I need so SPEED
Im assuming you have a little more than a grand at the least?
Go buy a Venom Computerized nitrous kit.
It monitors the engines a/f level and stops the nitrous should it get close to being lean.

AND it adds injector pulses (more fuel) in a calculated amount to make the nitrous safer, and it allows you to run more.
My friend ran about a 90 shot on a stock car and 92 octane.
Retard the timing and add a fuel pressure riser and you've got one helluva speedy RS on your hands!

But just get the kit first, you'll be happy
and spend the rest of your money on brakes, rims/tires etc etc...
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Old 10-15-2001, 12:35 AM   #16
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I have about $4000 right now. I have heard nice things about venom kits. Can the RS handle a 90 shot?? What 1/4 times could I expect with that? Also will this effect my engine?? Like kill the life of it? Thanks for the help!
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Old 10-15-2001, 10:59 AM   #17
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Anyone with more info on the Venom kit??
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Old 10-15-2001, 02:21 PM   #18
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http://i-club.com/forums/showthread....threadid=73080
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Old 10-15-2001, 03:21 PM   #19
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Yeah I read that but it was mostly fighting about if Nitrous was N2O or NO2. Not too much help. Thanks anyway!
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