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Old 08-20-2008, 11:59 PM   #26
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I wish there were some good pictures of a good straight wire to wire solder. It would help to visualise how much is enough. Great write up though. I will put the information to good use.

You are supposed to use only enough to saturate/coat the stranded wire for tinning. Anything that is clumpy is too much solder, and if it starts to drip off the wire. When soldering multiple wires, again avoid making it too clumpy. Bottom line is be conservative, it's easier to add more than to undo it.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:37 PM   #27
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so less is better im getting, but why is that? is solder itself not very conductive? I guess lead doesnt sound like it would conduct well, but why is a blob of solder when your done the wrong way. I would just like verification. thanks
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:16 PM   #28
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awesome write up. the only tool i didnt see mentioned was a solder "sucker". i suppose you prefer to use the wick which also works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder_sucker
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Old 03-19-2009, 11:29 PM   #29
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i didnt read this whole thing, but i did read what the op wrote. good and all but what about those weather proof wire crimpers where you insert a wire on each end and crimp each wire in place then use a heat gun to shrink the plastic down and around it to seal it off from the elements? we use them all the time at work, alot faster and cleaner than solder and never ever had one come loose. its got a little metal tube in the middle that does the clamping on the wire surrounded by plastic. sorry i have no pic. anyone ever use those? i dont think a master tech with over 25 years exp that i work with could be wrong.....but to each their own
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:50 PM   #30
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can anyone reccomend with make and model number the propper soldering supplies to solder aluminum? I already have both electric and butane irons.
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:58 PM   #31
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I have one small FAQ addition:

- When soldering small electrical semiconductors which use light alloys in the leads, such as LEDs, it is a good practice to hold the lead in an aligator clip or insulated-grip needle nose pliers. This will provide the semiconductor with a buffer to the heat being applied to it's leads during the process. Many early semiconductor failures are due to excessive heat applied to the semiconductor in the soldering process. This can be a prudent practice even for experienced assemblers, as it just provides a bit of added insurance against inadvertantly damaging a component.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:37 PM   #32
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Awesome info thanks !
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:11 PM   #33
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can anyone reccomend with make and model number the propper soldering supplies to solder aluminum? I already have both electric and butane irons.
Aluminum is a PITA to solder, the biggest thing to do is a mechanical crimp and use a corrosion preventer made for aluminum. There was a period where aluminum was used for home wiring since copper was scarce/expensive, they also burned down a number of homes because of aluminum corrosion over time. This led to high resistence connections that overheated (inside walls!!!) that then caught other things on fire.
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:38 PM   #34
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-Crimpers, use a "horse shoe" style crimp, not a "football" crimp. T&B makes a fantastic tool (for insulated/uninsulated connectors) like this... http://tnblnx3.tnb.com/emAlbum/album...t110m_0_ph.jpg

-Solder, you can get "acid core" "rosin core" or "solid", stick to "rosin core". It's easier to work with and does not have other corrosion issues.

-Soldering wire, like sweat fitting copper pipe, is all about having clean connections, just enough heat & just enough solder (as already stated).

-Electrical tape, when you wrap, do a spiral that overlaps the previous wrap ~50% and keep it tight. 3M type-33 is great and can be found @ Home Depot and other places.

-I wonder why only a lap joint was listed, normally I use a "linemans splice" where you cross the 2 wires about 1/2 way up the stripped section. Take one free end and wrap it around the other wire, repeat for the second free end. Solder when done & then insulate.
This makes the wire the "strength member" and the solder the "electrical connection".

-To answer another question on solder-suckers, they are "OK" for removing solder from a PC board, but not on typical wire to wire connections. I still perfer to use solder-wick.

Unabomber, as usual, job well done.
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:52 PM   #35
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But if you could solder aluminum, you could then pull out a dent from an intercooler.......
Sooo, how do you solder aluminum?
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:27 PM   #36
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The best advice I can give anyone on soldering is to buy a soldering gun or iron,get some cheap wire and connectors and practice,practice,practice. It is not some arcane art that you need some sort of degree to be able to learn. My Father taught me the basics when I was 10 years old and since I didn't need to use soldering till I was much older I had to teach myself with what I remembered. It is a simple thing to do but may take time to perfect. I have shown many people how to solder and almost without fail they say at one point-"I never knew it was so easy".
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:28 PM   #37
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But if you could solder aluminum, you could then pull out a dent from an intercooler.......
Sooo, how do you solder aluminum?
Aluminum needs to be welded,not soldered.
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:34 PM   #38
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Use double wall heat shrink. It contains glue on the inside that melts then adheres when heated up during shrinking. This blocks oxidation to the solder.
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Old 12-23-2009, 02:22 PM   #39
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this got me today, thank god for internet.Ive actually read the manual on this, but never touched it or used it, except today, took it to a car wash, and i guess they touched it by accident. And i thought it was the water got into my electrical system.wheeeww....
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:28 AM   #40
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Here's another helpful thread on wiring-
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2053286
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:36 AM   #41
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Mods...

I wanted to place this in the electrical formulas thread, but it is locked...

It's worthy of keeping here, but should be placed in that thread too if possible..

Ohms Laws, can't get any easier than that..

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Old 02-15-2012, 08:01 PM   #42
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Mods...

I wanted to place this in the electrical formulas thread, but it is locked...

It's worthy of keeping here, but should be placed in that thread too if possible..

Ohms Laws, can't get any easier than that..
That is awesome. I wish I had that when I was in my EE classes
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:05 PM   #43
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Quesetion... for wiring wires into a plug, what is the substance that you use to fill the plug to insulate/protect the connections? Is it some type of special silicon or dieletric something or other? A link would help as I'm looking for one, thanks!
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...uctId=11776438


If you are trying to seal wires going into a plug i would probably go to Radio shack and get some shrink wrap to protect any bare wire aswell as some
5 minute epoxy (check link) its like $ 4. and seal your plug with that . let it dry and it will solve your problem, hope that helps
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:21 PM   #44
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LOL at reply to spammer.. I usually check really dumb questions from "TEXT"+"##" accounts.. and I was just looking at that one after replying but the mods were super fast.

Don't know why the Mods had to nuke my reply though, it was valid info for anyone who wonders why bother with solder?

Still awesome moderation work, beat me to the spam report..
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:29 AM   #45
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thanks this is a very helpful post.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:42 AM   #46
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great, thank you for share
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Old 11-24-2013, 10:51 PM   #47
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They also have liquid electrical tape
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baby ear and nose suctioner will help pick up solder drips befor they harden.
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I wouldn't use a open flame to solder wires
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I wouldn't use a open flame to solder wires
It all comes down to options and skill. No skill and better options? Ok.

I've seen people work with torches and the precision of heat and solder penetration was impressive. The resulting joins were all super clean regardless of the gauge with zero waste. Plus the speed they were working at was startling, waiting till the end of the soldering to switch to a different tip for the heat shrink and do all them at the same time very fast.
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