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Old 01-15-2001, 06:39 PM   #1
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Just so you know, I did search the archives 1st.....

Was driving around 7 Springs for skiing in PA this weekend. I have decided that the standard/hi beams on my '99 OB suck; really hard to maintain speed on twisty back roads because I can't see far enough ahead. Have you more experienced Legacy people settled on a good replacement? The folks on Edmunds like the PIAA Superwhites, but recently there have been grumblings that they don't offer any actual improvement, just look brighter.
Maybe I'll just go for the big ol' Hella look. Ha! That would piss off the BMW CCA clubbers I drive with. BMW owners seem to have a real hatred of fog lights, for some reason.
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Old 01-15-2001, 07:13 PM   #2
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Get a set of Hella 500's! They only cost @$80-$90, produce tons of light (they have my rating to at-least 120mph). Mount them on the top of the bumper, not in the stock location. Also be sure to get the driving beam, not the fog beam. Look!



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Old 01-15-2001, 08:24 PM   #3
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Yeah, check out my night pictures of comparisons with the standard low beam, high beam, and Hella 500 driving lights. Mine are set up like pleiades shown above. http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/Pic...egacypage.html The pictures aren't very good, but you get the idea. The lights are fantastic! Obviously you don't use them when anyone is around.

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Old 01-16-2001, 06:28 AM   #4
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kewl. I think I have a dead switch somewhere on my dash (prolly where the sunroof button should be). Did you install these yourselves, or have a shop do it? I am not to adept at this sort of thing, but if it was easy, I'd give it a shot. I suppose you have to drill through the bumper?
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Old 01-16-2001, 09:49 AM   #5
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PIAA superwhites are a bad idea, see http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/info/superwhites/ . There are several other pages on the net that debunk them also.

Better high beams are easy, (like the hella 500), but has anybody found a good solution for better LOW beams? (I know, Hella 550XL are low beam enhancers, but they suffer from the same problem as all other US spec low beams, 40% of the light pattern must point up, where it bounces back in your face.)

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Old 01-16-2001, 02:45 PM   #6
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I heard that you can only have 4 lights on at one time at night. Is that true in New York State? if aimed properly would it blind on coming traffic?
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Old 01-16-2001, 05:07 PM   #7
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Here's a link to another discussion about different ways to mount them. Doing a search in the "dress up and style" forum will yield a lot of info. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Foru...ML/000492.html

I'm at work right now, so I can't get into a detailed explanation of how I did mine. It's generally covered in the above link.

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Old 01-16-2001, 07:17 PM   #8
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For lighting, I went with the PIAA 9007 Platinum Superwhites 55/60 I believe... these were pretty good... plus I have the Piaa Plasma Blues in my stock fogs (H3), as well as a set of RoadBoy RB400 Crystal whites as driving lights. (This was the lighting set-up I used on my GT) On my Legacy L, I had a set of Raybrig Xenon's and a set of RB368 Yellow fogs.

I currently have a set of 9007HID's coming in, checking that out on my GT first, and then if I don't like it, I'll swap it into my L, and install the Legacy GTB headlight w/ HID projection lights. (These will be bright!)
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Old 01-16-2001, 09:08 PM   #9
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lucien,, you got a legacy too?? anyway for a 1st fix and a cheap one two,try the cool blues from sylvania, itried em in my GT and the high beams are much superior to the stock bulbs.Pep boys has em maybe 25 bucks a pair.These aint piiaa or hellas but they are legal. And you bimmer buddies will like em too lol.
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Old 01-17-2001, 12:57 AM   #10
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Well if PIAA Superwhites are so bad why are they the #1 selling light in America? One guy debunks something and millions of people are wrong...I don't think so. I have had dozens of lights in my cars over my 25 years of driving and not much can beat the PIAA light. But think what you want. I personaly can tell a tremendous differance over stock or any 85/100 or 90/130 bulbs I've had in the past.

Thats my $20.00 worth.

And no I don't work for PIAA (even though their only 30 minutes away)
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Old 01-17-2001, 06:42 AM   #11
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Great, thanks a lot you guys. I've got to think this one out, as I am on a limited budget right now, and still want that front swaybar...
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Old 01-17-2001, 06:48 AM   #12
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Lucien if ya want we could meet sometime, you can compare my lites to yours.
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Old 01-17-2001, 08:30 AM   #13
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that'd be kewl. Are you going to the Mid Atlantic meeting on Monday? (see that forum for details)
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Old 01-18-2001, 01:18 AM   #14
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I put Hella 78582 bulbs in my 98 GT and the difference is wonderful. Much brighter, whiter light. These are 80/100 watt bulbs and the stock harness seems to handle them fine. I've been using them about a year and consider them one of the 3 best "mods" I've done, along with the sway bar and the transmission oil. And at only about $25/pr it's a cheap and quick fix.
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Old 01-18-2001, 07:40 AM   #15
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I used Hella Optilux Xenon bulbs in the 80low/100high variety as a replacement. The difference was amazing! The color of the light is cooler and whiter, road markings easier to see and beam pattern quite good. Got them from Rallylights, but Hella's had some reliability problems they're working out. I would highly reccommend them as an inexpensive replacement set for the stock bulbs,and have had no problems w/ wiring (Stock should have no prob w/ 100Watts).
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Old 01-18-2001, 08:27 AM   #16
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Old 01-18-2001, 11:32 AM   #17
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motorob - I got my GTB lights from Japan directly... incl. wiring harness etc... it's a H3 highbeam, and HID projection low beam, w/ 5w white city lights. All one piece with clear corners. Off of a '98 Legacy GT-B
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Old 01-18-2001, 02:48 PM   #18
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Hey Richeich,

I REALLY like your rims!!! How much did you pay for 'em?
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Old 01-18-2001, 03:47 PM   #19
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Thanks for the compliment! I bought them used from Chris at TRi Tuning. They had used them on their Legacy GT Limited. I got them for $850 with the tires included (Toyo Proxes FZ4). One neat thing about the Team Dynamics is that you can change the center plate to a different color to accent the car however you want. Chris had the red ones on their car, but only two of them made it through shipping, so I ordered some new ones from the US distributor for the wheels. They weren't too expensive.

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Old 01-18-2001, 04:04 PM   #20
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Great! Subie Gal's mount is what I was looking for.
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Old 01-18-2001, 04:16 PM   #21
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GTB: How much did THAT run ya?!
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Old 01-18-2001, 07:18 PM   #22
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Yep, SubieGal definitely had one of the better/easier mounts. I didn't figure that out until after I had done mine. Oh well, the kids got a kick out of me having the whole front of the car removed. (And trying to get it back together before their mother got home from work!)

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Old 01-18-2001, 09:07 PM   #23
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Velocity - don't ask, way too much! *lol*
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Old 01-19-2001, 05:07 PM   #24
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GTB: PM me, I wanna know...
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I got 800 watts of light blasting with my setup!!!
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