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Old 06-13-2006, 10:37 PM   #1
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ok... heres my plan... 1996 impreza L with greddy emanage, MBC, EJ22T injectors to be installed

engine build

plan 1:

used EJ22 block
used EJ22T pistons
used EJ22T heads
used turbo manifold or el-cheapo ebay headers
used turbo
used IC
used exhaust
used JDM x-member + swaybar

I plan on doing a parallel fuel rail setup with both, have not figured out intake plumbing (under the bridge or over) because of the IAC and other bits and piece being in the way...

plan #2:

same deal but with an EJ25 (phase I) block with THICK HG
obviously stock pistons

rest the same

any comments or ideas?
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:03 PM   #2
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Use the 22 block and pistons but with better heads
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:12 PM   #3
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I wanna stay sohc cause of the oem ecm.... and the factory oil and water pitots on them
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:22 AM   #4
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Please don't tell me you are even considering a Phase I block over the EJ22t for a turbo build.

Trust me the extra boost you will be able to sustain from using the 2.2 will be much more appreciated when compared to the 2.5.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:31 AM   #5
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I wanna stay sohc cause of the oem ecm.... and the factory oil and water pitots on them
You can use SOHC Ej25 heads on that build with the stock ECU.

OR, a '98 DOHC Ej25 ECU is practically a direct plug in replacement for your stock ECU. Do a search for info from Storm. He's done it. IIRC, 3-4 wires need repinning on your stock connectors, and viola, you have the DOHC and a 6500rpm redline to boot. And since the E-manage won't move your redline, that's a worthwhile change...
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:00 PM   #6
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I would never use used pistons/rings, especially if they came out of different bores. They are so cheap, you can't really justify the sheer laziness.
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:18 PM   #7
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Please don't tell me you are even considering a Phase I block over the EJ22t for a turbo build.
Just a small correction... the EJ22T block actually was a phase 1 block. They didn't put phase 2 into production until sometime in 1998 (for the 98-99 model years).
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:25 PM   #8
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Just a small correction... the EJ22T block actually was a phase 1 block. They didn't put phase 2 into production until sometime in 1998 (for the 98-99 model years).
That's correct, 99 I believe.
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:25 PM   #9
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I would never use used pistons/rings, especially if they came out of different bores. They are so cheap, you can't really justify the sheer laziness.
I am using the pistons. the rings will be new, and the walls will be rehoned.

good idea on the DOHC ECM, we have assloads of those lying around, so it should be an easy find.

ok, i will go with the EJ22E block, I will stick with the turbo heads (cheap, just won em on ebay) so I wont have to tap and pitot the 2.5 SOHC heads and those hit the up pipe anyways...

remember, BUDGET build...
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:26 PM   #10
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You can use SOHC Ej25 heads on that build with the stock ECU.

OR, a '98 DOHC Ej25 ECU is practically a direct plug in replacement for your stock ECU. Do a search for info from Storm. He's done it. IIRC, 3-4 wires need repinning on your stock connectors, and viola, you have the DOHC and a 6500rpm redline to boot. And since the E-manage won't move your redline, that's a worthwhile change...
what about the whole EGR issue?
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Old 06-14-2006, 02:06 PM   #11
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what about the whole EGR issue?
Ditch it. You're in VT.
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Old 06-14-2006, 06:10 PM   #12
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still gotta pass OBDII....

even though I work for a shop... would be nice to have it right...

oh and BTW we just got in a TOTALLED spec B....looks like the drivers door hugged a tree...
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EJ22t injectors are smallish and the rail is funky. I would do USDM STi side feeds in a dohc rail.
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Old 06-14-2006, 08:11 PM   #14
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I heard somewheres that the EJ22E rail will take larger nissan injectors....

anyone hear of this?
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Old 06-14-2006, 09:27 PM   #15
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1992-94 NA legacy rails will accept SRD20 (or whatever they are called) Nisson injectors. They are commonly available in 370, 440 550 and larger.

I am running 370 cc injectors right now and making about 160 whp with some room to spare, I think.
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Old 06-15-2006, 12:25 AM   #16
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just nissan injectors? im pretty sure I see them all over EBAY....

they clip right into the subaru harness?
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Its the SRDET20 injectors. The clip is close but not quite, so you have to grind some plastic down. But they work. I will find some pictures eventually.....
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Ah I know those injectors!
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