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Old 10-15-2001, 05:18 PM   #1
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Default does anyone swap engines?

are there any engines to swap into a 99-00 RS?
if so, does it fit in perfectly, and how much?
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Old 10-15-2001, 05:34 PM   #2
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EJ20t................2.0 litres TURBO (UK, Aus and Jap WRXs)

It's a bolt-on procedure. All you need is a WRX ECU or a brand-new programmable ECU. All the rest is simple bolt-on, it's the same damn car!!!

For my part, I'm going for the EJ20t next summer, depending of the $$$$$$ status, I'll go with the reg EJ20t or the STi EJ20t......but this.......is a story to follow...
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Old 10-15-2001, 05:46 PM   #3
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You have to source an EJ20 crossmember, and the wiring is kinda tricky, but there are swaps running around all over the place, there are around 4 here in toronto alone.. until I make it 5, mwuahaahahahahahaaha....
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Old 10-15-2001, 05:49 PM   #4
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haha nice =P

so where can one find an EJ20t? and how much can it run you?

also, jsut wondering is there a need for an engine swap? or can you jsut go after market turbo? and advantages/disadvantages?

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Old 10-16-2001, 05:01 AM   #5
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is it cheaper to get an used JDM motor to swap or
get the 02WRX motor in canada or america?
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Old 10-16-2001, 05:21 AM   #6
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At this point, the older non-North American motors (Japan and Australia, mostly) are cheaper and more easily sourced than motors from North American WRXs. I'm sure this will change with a couple years of people totalling their cars. I haven't heard anything to indicate a domestic EJ20T is any easier to swap in than a JDM or Australian one.


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Old 10-16-2001, 07:21 AM   #7
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so if swap a JDM motor..


I heard it takes long long process just to bolt it on...

lots of hasttle...is it true? or is it just as easy as

how honda swap those type R motor?
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Old 10-16-2001, 10:29 AM   #8
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The worst part is splicing together the wiring harness. Actually bolting the motor in is as easy as replacing it with another EJ25 motor. As someone mentioned, you WILL need the front cross member, if you are swapping the tranny, too, you should probably try to get the rear diff, too. That way you won't have to worry about swapping out the gearing in the rear diff to get it to match. Then, if you get the rear diff, you need the rear axles from the JDM car, too. Best to get the entire rear axle assembly.

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Old 10-16-2001, 04:15 PM   #9
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It is a lot more hassle than swapping a B18 into a B16 car. In particular, you will not be able to use the stock ECU or the JDM ECU.


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Old 10-17-2001, 12:53 AM   #10
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fuel, electronic ignition, sensors, crossmember, swaybar, fuel delivery, comp.


it's a month ol project if you ask me. Got a liberty RS motor sitting in my garage, and let me tell you, it's gonna take forever.
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Old 10-17-2001, 09:32 PM   #11
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Well what I plan on doing in 3-4 years is drop a ej20turbo into my engine bay. What would I need to go with the ovbious engine and exhaust assembly (headers, up pipe, turbo, downpipe, tmic) etc...? I could use the stock my02 ecu right? Would the crossmember off the my02 fit the gc8? And finally could I keep my stock tranny and final drive/rear differential, and center differential? Thanks.
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Old 10-18-2001, 12:52 PM   #12
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As long as you have the parts ready, it can go very smooth. A day project for sure.
I would recomend buying a programable ECU and forget the stock ecu and harness. makes life easier.
Make sure you get the crossmember or have one cut and welded to strengthen it back up.
You can use the stock fuel pump. Its good for 75 psi and plenty of Gpm, unless you run 400hp
I would buy different injectors.
Clutch is a must, get a four puck racing clutch.
Pay someone to put it in and you off.
Haltech ECU $1300
Engine $1000-$4000 $1K for the old WRX engines
Crossmember $200
Injectors $350
Labor $0 if you do it.
Clutch $200 or less
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Old 11-08-2001, 11:42 AM   #13
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perrin, so is that all you need?
just those few parts?
wut about the rear diff and axles and stuff?

also, where can you find a wrx engine? not a new north american one because it'll be harder to find and such

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Old 11-08-2001, 02:19 PM   #14
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These are all 98-99 STI ver4-5 parts! This is the good stuff!
I have access right now to 3 different ones. all contain all the parts and electronics to do the swap. Prices vary a little. one is a clip, one is just the parts, and the other is the whole car!
Please mail me and we can talk.
jeff@subaruwrx.ws
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prices are from $5000 to $10000
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Old 11-08-2001, 04:25 PM   #15
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If your looking for WRX engines, www.teaguesauto.com has a used engine they are selling, but not sure of the install. You will need to buy an aftermarket ECU, and a Haltech would be your best bet so you can tune it properly.

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Old 11-08-2001, 06:32 PM   #16
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haha !! I'm doing it right now...... not my self but someone else. I've the liberty RS EJ20T motor from outback motorsport in CA , you'll need new x-menber, fuel pump and a ECU if you want ( but I didn't... cos the guy who did the install say he should be able to work it out for me) all the sensor are bolt on (I had a 98 2.2L don't know about 2.5RS ) I also had new clutch , new water pump, timing belt, head, valve gasget.....etc all the stuff you need for tune up.
and I had msd timing master ( will retard timing when it see boost) apex-i afc , all the gauges I need( boost, EGT, oil pre)
greddy boost control.
the car is at the shop with the engine out , and the turbo motor is going in this weekend, hope nothing will goes wrong then I shouldbe able to pick up the car this month!!
all the cost with out the labar is :
1. engine $1300(outback motorsport in CA)
2.x-member $300(subaruparts.com)
3.fuel pump $100( off a 280hp STI impreza in hong kong)
4.all the tune up part $250 -$300 ( subaruparts.com)
5. msd timing master $170( summit racing)
6. apex-i afc $200( used off ebay)
7. greddy boost control $30 ( used off ebay)
8. clutch $300( ceco clutch)
you're looking at around $2700 for just the part only + labar.
I'll post how much my friend charge me for this whole mess when it is done.
so it isn't any cheaper than the turbo kit out there + no body know if it work or not ????? ( I hope it works) or it might run slower than before!!! who knows !!!
if I can do it again I think I'll buy a bolt on turbo kit only !! the reson why I bought this engine is when I go to outback motorsport to shop for the turbo stuff to bolt on my car only.... but it adds up to $800 for the turbo and all the accessories.... so why not just garp the whole engine for $500 more ??? then it start this whole mess !!!!!
sorry for all wrong spelling...I've try hard already... I'll post a update it there is any news comes up !!!
BTW .. my car is at the shop for two months already !!

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