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Old 10-16-2001, 01:24 AM   #1
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Well, as everyone knows-I was one of the folks screwed by JC Sports turbo GB. I know-some of you told me so-don't tell me again! ;-)

Anyway, I still have a slightly ill stock engine in my 2.5RS(bad piston slap). I have a '99 SOHC engine sitting in the garage as well as a new EJ22t block.

My original plan was to swap in the EJ22t block and put the 2.5 heads on with the turbo kit.

Now, I've lost some funds and have to rethink things. What would folks recommend? A DIY turbo kit? I really don't want to get into a TECII kit right now.

I'm obviously tempted to swap in the '99 engine as I know it'll work. BUT I REALLY want boost! :-)

Thoughts? I welcome any armchair quarterbacking! :-)

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Old 10-16-2001, 01:42 AM   #2
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If you don't have the money right now, just get the car running if need be with the 99RS engine. I would try and wait till you have more money to drop into a Turbo before getting the barebones Turbo. You will spend nearly twice what you paid for a Turbo setup alone. Expect that if you want a properly tuned and daily driver Turbo.

Just my $0.02

Then again once you've had boost you can't go back...
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Old 10-16-2001, 01:50 AM   #3
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Skywalker,
What about just getting the car running using the EJ22t block with the 2.5RS heads. Didn't Bill Harvey drive around like that for awhile before he got boosted? Bill, post if you've got some thoughts.

The only problem with the '99 is that I'll have to swap ECU plugs and try to find the tool to remove the pins in the stock plugs. Apparently, it's a specific Subaru part as my mechanic doesn't have the tool(and he has all those, "I've got just the tool for that," jobs). :-)

I know I shouldn't do something half-assed-I won't be happy-but does DIY necessarily mean half-assed? I suppose it depends who's doing it! ;-)

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Old 10-16-2001, 02:01 AM   #4
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IMHO, Well half-assed means you made somethign "Ghetto" instead of doing ti the proper way. Instead of using rubber oil retun lines use steel braided, such things like that. So i have a partially half-assed setup but hey thoose things are getting worked out slowly as I learn more and more. If you do it right the first time there will be less worries later on and nailing down little tuning issues will be much eaiser.

The EJ22T block with 2.5RS heads will probably be fine too. Just make sure you do a good job on everything for the NA tune. If everything looks good and everything is how you woudl prefer, wiht money being a very slight side factor then move onto the Turbo. If there are issues fix them first.

I have been staying at 5PSI because I have a Fuel issue, and until that is fixed I will nto go above that. Just one of those things. I guess it's my software engineering brain working...
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Old 10-16-2001, 02:50 AM   #5
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Ok, I WILL go turbo at some point.

I've been searching archieves to find a list of parts that are needed to turbo an RS. I know there were some threads/pages, but I've lost them now. Anyone have them bookmarked?

I want to try and locate some sources for parts that would be needed.

All the help is greatly appreciated!

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Old 10-16-2001, 02:53 AM   #6
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John, Bill did indeed drive the car with the 2.2/2.5 hybrid and no turbo- the ECU handled it quite well from what I remember. I'm sure Bill can elaborate, but it will work.

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Old 10-16-2001, 09:18 AM   #7
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Thanks Brian-I thought that Bill drove it for awhile. I'll be talking to my mechanic today about the situation.

Thanks! John
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Old 10-16-2001, 09:29 AM   #8
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I drove it for 1000 miles that wayne said i had to before he would install the turbo with me. it ran fune but it was a low compresion 2.2 it all depends how log it will take before you can throw on the turbo kit
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Old 10-16-2001, 08:40 PM   #9
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What's wrong with steel braided oil lines? Which is going to burn first? which is going to get cut first? The rubber everytime.
Take a look at subachad's site. He has a good write up. He'll help you if oyu have questions too.
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Old 10-16-2001, 08:43 PM   #10
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Re-read what he said. He said using rubber lines instead of braided stainless was ghetto/half-assed, not the other way around.


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Old 10-16-2001, 10:32 PM   #11
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Thanks for the feedback Bill. Not sure how long it'll be before the turbo goes on-I guess as long as it takes to gather all the pieces I'll need for a basic setup.

I won't be upset if I'm down on power temporarily, and may already be down with my current engine.

Again, if anyone has any URLs for sites that describe the process of doing the job yourself, please let me know!

Cheers! John
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Old 11-04-2001, 08:13 PM   #12
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Well, I've turned the corner and have swallowed the bitter pill that is JC Sports.

I've purchased a used WRX turbo, a Saab 900 intercooler, and an up-pipe from Subachad as well as sundry parts from ISR. I also picked up a set of Borla headers locally for a song.

I'll soon have the car in the shop for the install(probably in the next couple of weeks). Any thoughts from those of you that are turbo'd at present would be appreciated. I want to keep the boost low initially, as I won't have any piggy backs right off.

I have the Walbro 255 fuel pump on my list. What else would folks recommend for my situation? SFI? Bigger/Extra injectors? Should I do the parallel fuel line mod?

Thanks for all the help and support! John
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Old 11-04-2001, 08:16 PM   #13
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What about a new fuel pressure regulator to handle the higher flow of the Walbro pump?


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Old 11-04-2001, 08:22 PM   #14
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Ben,
Should I go with a RRFPR and/or the SVX regulator? Also, what ratio? 4:1, 6:1? I've been trying to make sense out of some of the latest threads and finding it a bit difficult.

Thanks for bringing that up! John
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Old 11-04-2001, 08:29 PM   #15
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I am the wrong person to ask since I really don't like all those piggyback doodads.


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Old 11-05-2001, 09:01 AM   #16
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Ben,
I'm not a big fan either. Will probably go with an engine management system at some point, but not initially.

RRFPR and other recommendations are certainly welcome!

Thanks! John
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Ben

If your concerned about getting fuel to your engine with your new turbo setup, then a good product to buy if you want to be able to tune is the Jumptronix A/F meter which reads out in volts and not "lean to rich" lights. The Jumptronix does NOT tune for you, you'll need a S-AFC or something along those lines to actually change your air/fuel ratios. The Bell RRFPR is another good device to monitor A/F.

You might want to also look into getting a J & S Knock Sensor so you know when your pushing your engine to hard. These are just some items off the top of my head.

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