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Old 11-02-2000, 07:20 AM   #1
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Post Brake pad recommendations?

I'll be running drilled rotors with stainless lines, and am after something for street (obviously), with good grabbing that's kind to rotors, and low on the dust factor. A lot of folks are swearing by Metal Masters. Is this still the case?

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Old 11-02-2000, 11:09 AM   #2
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gtguy - you may want to check into the KVR CF pad GB
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Old 11-02-2000, 01:49 PM   #3
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I have used Axxis for years. Their best benefit is that they last forever. They are usually the last pad I put on a car. They do dust a bit though.

Next, I am going to try EBC Green pads. They look like the hot ticket these days, and seem to hold up a little better under exteam circumstances.
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Old 11-02-2000, 05:51 PM   #4
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what have you guys used for the rears??

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Old 11-02-2000, 08:31 PM   #5
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I'm already in the CF pad GB, GTBGUY, but I need something sooner rather than later.

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Old 11-02-2000, 09:06 PM   #6
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Porterfield R4S ? (front and rear), excellent
all-around (all-season?) pad, work cold, kind to rotors, last a while, don't squeak, dust is similar or better than stock.

Somewhat better bite than stock though they will eventually fade under hard use.
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Old 11-03-2000, 12:21 AM   #7
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I try KVR for my Legacy turbo and in some of the conditation, it will fate. I will try EBC green stuff on my next brake pad change!
BTW, I use PBD for the rear disc and it works great!!
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Old 11-03-2000, 04:59 AM   #8
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How about the carbon fiber/metallic compound that everyone is selling? Those any good? They make great promises on paper...

Barring that, I might just use stock pads, unless Performance Friction makes something for our car, until the CF pads from GTBGUY's group buy surface.

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Old 11-03-2000, 07:50 AM   #9
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I have the Axxis metal masters from
www.get-primitive.com

*front/rears
*no brake fade
*very little wear
*and VERY little dust

highly recommended.

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Old 11-03-2000, 08:29 AM   #10
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I didn't know you used your brakes, Jamie!

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Old 01-08-2001, 04:16 PM   #11
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I'll jump in here with a little heresay. I have heard universally good things about metal masters from all walks of life- BMW folk, Morgan folk (!), Soob folk.

I know they don't last forever, because 2 days of hot laps at Summit Point cooked EVERY bimmers Metal Masters, at least on the instructor cars (because there's hot laps, and then there's HOT laps, yea?), so I foubt they last "forever".

That said, anything with a higher level of metal, kevlar, yadda yadda, will eat those fancy rotors sooner or later. Prolly sooner, since they've been pre-weakened with cross-drilling

And I may be preaching to the choir, probably am actually, but make sure whatever you get is safe to use on the street. Hi-pro pads won't warm up etc etc you know this I'll shut up and get back to work.
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Old 01-08-2001, 05:07 PM   #12
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If you haven't already purchased your rotors, don't. Modern brake pads don't outgas the way old pads did - which is why people started cross-drilling, not to cool the rotor. The only advantage to drilled rotors, now, is weight savings.

Invest in a good set of regular cryo-treated rotors. You'll be much happier.
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Old 01-09-2001, 12:07 AM   #13
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( Dredging up an old thread; shopping for brake pads. )

Jamie, out of curiosity, do you know a part number or compound for those Axxis pads? I noted with interest that you report, 'No fade', because I completely cooked a set of Axxis MetalMasters on a different car at Blackhawk Farms Raceway.

I'm wondering if they have changed significantly since then, since that was a couple years ago.

Also, to the group, from where do these EBC pads come? I haven't seen anything in my search so far.
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Old 01-09-2001, 08:12 AM   #14
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Gavin - sounds like you have been reading Grass Roots Motorsports latest issue...
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Old 01-09-2001, 08:16 AM   #15
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Jamie, out of curiosity, do you know a part number or compound for those Axxis pads? I noted with interest that you report, 'No fade', because I completely cooked a set of Axxis MetalMasters on a different car at Blackhawk Farms Raceway.
You are talking apples and oranges if you are mixing road and track recommendations. Axxis is not a track pad, but works great on the street. The few pads that I know that can be used on road and (limited) track (i.e. EBC, or Porterfield R4S) don't last long on the track anyway. Serious track use requires you to change out your street pads.

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Old 01-09-2001, 08:21 AM   #16
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Also, to the group, from where do these EBC pads come? I haven't seen anything in my search so far.
Hillman, try: http://www.ebc-brakes.com/

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Old 01-09-2001, 10:46 AM   #17
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I don't consider withstanding a few laps around a race track to be an unreasonable expectation for a street brake pad. I don't expect them to last long, but neither do I care about that. I don't really care what they do to my rotors. I just want to stop.

What I do not want, is smoke pouring from my wheel wells, and a high, hard brake pedal with no braking force after 4 miles.

That was my experience with MetalMasters. I'm hoping they've improved, because I was underwhelmed on first impression.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 01-09-2001, 01:34 PM   #18
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Gavin - sounds like you have been reading Grass Roots Motorsports latest issue...
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Heh, nope. Just one of my pet-peeves. I don't like seeing people waste money, especially on things that will actually work worse. Don't get me started on Premium gas .
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But it costs more, it must be better, right???





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