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Old 11-16-2006, 10:18 PM   #151
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Why would anyone even consider a Subaru for that much power?
Cuz no one has done it yet....

Thats why *I* would do it.

As for where the WJM would start....

EG33, go ahead and wet sleeve it and go 2MM over bore with appropriately thick sleeves. (end result of about 3.8L displacement)
Cosworth Crank.
Fully custom-newly cast and CNC machined heads with AVCS.
Mahle Pro (The box-in-box) pistons.
Some type of unobtainium rods.
AEM for the EMS

And supporting mods.


Take all that, shove it into a 1985 XT-DL (stripper model), flatbottom it, light weight it some more (2300 lbs fully loaded) and go to town.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:26 PM   #152
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2.5 month bump?
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:12 PM   #153
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Give it time...
MY build will be on a mustang dyno though
but mine won't be the one getting near 1000whp
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:49 AM   #154
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With 800 whp the Cobb Tuning Time Attack project shouldn't be too far off using an EZ30 and twin GT3071s
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:35 PM   #155
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i have a nasty setup and dont think i will even get to 1000 with nitros but i will try, , I think you would need the H6 and high rpm, with a huge turbo.

Just to have a dyno queen
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:04 AM   #156
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Well with AWD any Subaru dyno queen should do at least halfway decent on a drag strip. I'd hope!
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Old 11-18-2006, 05:47 AM   #157
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didn't turbotrix out of new jersey build an over 900 awhp sti on meth? i saw it in dsport magazine. at the time they only had 700hp, but they were hoping to get well over 900 on that setup, i'm not sure how much they spent on it though. they were planning to run something rediculous like 44 psi
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Old 11-19-2006, 02:53 PM   #158
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Tell him to choose a different platform to build.
The H6 will blow apart at ~500hp . I don't think that the subaru makes a motor that can do that . Maybe the sleeved 2.5 and such , but ... that is really absurd
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:02 PM   #159
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The H6 will blow apart at ~500hp .


and where are you getting this from?...and if your answer includes stock block, please slap yourself
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:25 PM   #160
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The H6 will blow apart at ~500hp.




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Old 11-19-2006, 03:36 PM   #161
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Tell him to choose a different platform to build.
The H6 will blow apart at ~500hp . I don't think that the subaru makes a motor that can do that . Maybe the sleeved 2.5 and such , but ... that is really absurd
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Where are you getting this? I have 3 SVX's and have never heard of someone having issues with the motor outside of someone trying a 175 shot of NOS. Granted there is nobody that I know of that is pushing the 500whp mark, but there are a few S/C ones that are in the 380-415 range on stock motors with stock internals. I am in the middle of building an EG33 this winter. and if you have the time and the $$$$, 500whp is def a possibillity, but EM will pose the biggest problem.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:10 PM   #162
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Well , I guess if that was the case , then I was wrongly informed. I actually have an H6 sitting behind the garage , but when I was doing research to build it , I constantly ran into that : A) would cost alot more than a 2.5 build B) could really only get 400hp ~500hp out of them reliably , and C) something else that made me steer away from it.
So I went with a 2.2t instead.
But if you guys say its possible, then I will have to do some more digging.

If it is possible, then how come you don't see more of them? $$ vs. hp gain? Easier to make hp on 2.5 ?

So , if that is the case , am I right in still saying that the H6 could not get 1000hp then ?
Granted , ANYTHING is possible, but attainable?
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Pistons/rods/valvesprings....etc.etc.etc.

They make lots of power, however, it takes alot to take a NA engine to turbo.
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Old 11-19-2006, 05:58 PM   #164
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...but EM will pose the biggest problem.
AEM will solve that.

While AEM doesnt make one that is plug and play for the SVX...every AEM has the capability to run anything from a single cylinder lawmower to any 12 cylinder engine. Wiring and setting it up is the slightly difficult part. But if you can assemble an engine from the ground up, then the AEM will not be a problem if you do a little research and if you can understand the AEM manual.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:22 PM   #165
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perrins got a turbo h6 going on. pdx did a turbo h6 for a customer. phatsuby is doing a twin turbo h6. there was that twin 35r bug eye that was a h6. people all over are doing them. look around
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:40 PM   #166
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They make lots of power, however, it takes alot to take a NA engine to turbo.
yeah, rod, pistons and headwork (including cam)...but what drag car at this scale doesn't have that done anyhow
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:26 PM   #167
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didn't turbotrix out of new jersey build an over 900 awhp sti on meth? i saw it in dsport magazine. at the time they only had 700hp, but they were hoping to get well over 900 on that setup, i'm not sure how much they spent on it though. they were planning to run something rediculous like 44 psi
44psi on Methanol isn't ridiculous as the equivalent gas octance rating is around 124. Also since the BTU content of methanol is half that of gasoline, you have to run twice the fuel volume. That equates to a ridiculous exhaust gas volume to spool your turbo. Add a h20-air IC and 50+ PSI would be no sweat until the intake charge drops to around 45ish degrees where methanol fails to vaporize. A 10% Mix of max octane race gas and 90% methanol could make that power EASY. Well more easily than gas ever could.
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Old 11-25-2006, 03:49 PM   #168
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i dont think ill be far off with cams, built 2.65L, gt42R turbo ,meth, 120 shot of nitros, 44 or so psi, and a bunch of other custom fabed parts, headers , 4 inch exhaust, etc, SAEM
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i dont think ill be far off with cams, built 2.65L, gt42R turbo ,meth, 120 shot of nitros, 44 or so psi, and a bunch of other custom fabed parts, headers , 4 inch exhaust, etc, SAEM
holy ****!
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i dont think ill be far off with cams, built 2.65L, gt42R turbo ,meth, 120 shot of nitros, 44 or so psi, and a bunch of other custom fabed parts, headers , 4 inch exhaust, etc, SAEM
Bench dyno says 850~900 at the wheels on that.
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A Zoloft prescription would be money well spent for anyone that MUST have 1000whp in a Subaru.

hahhahah lol
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Old 11-25-2006, 05:41 PM   #172
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i dont think ill be far off with cams, built 2.65L, gt42R turbo ,meth, 120 shot of nitros, 44 or so psi, and a bunch of other custom fabed parts, headers , 4 inch exhaust, etc, SAEM
I'd be interested to see if it could crack 1000whp...what are you spinning the 2.65 to?
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It'd be easier with a EJ22 based stroker @ 2.4L. The closed deck block will hold the boost way more reliably that an EJ25. And the reciprocating weight with a profile milled billet crank and TI Rods are substantially lighter than what you are gonna be swinging in the EJ25 setup. Redline is about 9750rpm with the EJ22 config which is about 130lbs of air(top of the pressure map with a gt42) Might wanna look at the Borg Warner S/R-200/300 turbo family which can support the required power level.
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Old 11-25-2006, 08:26 PM   #174
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i dont think this will crack 1000 hp, but it will make "enough"

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It's going to be totally dependent on how much boost they can run through it and if they double o-ringed/dead-soft copper gasketed/big head studs/portwork the heads.
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