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Old 07-10-2014, 01:15 AM   #1
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I'm planning on buying a new Impreza WRX this week I am looking for suggestions for the best years for motor and trans. I'm not buying a brand new one I'm looking for a 03 to 09 . Pros and cons for different years?? 2.0 or 2.5l

Im a fourm member from awhile ago when i had my 03 wrx wagon. I havent been in the sceen for many years. Not its time to buy another one . By far my favorite car i have owned!!

Please real sugestions that will make my decision easier.. im going to try to buy this within a week or two.

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Old 07-10-2014, 02:11 AM   #2
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I had a 06 wrx for 3 years and loved it... eventually traded it in for a 11 sti sedan... just make sure you dont get a tr... no auto climate control and seats suck...lol
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:54 AM   #3
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1679821

No reason you cannot research on your own.
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Old 07-10-2014, 09:02 AM   #4
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"The best year is <year owned>!!"
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Old 07-10-2014, 09:06 AM   #5
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Yea you're covering about 4 body styles with those years haha either pick on which style you like more or just research the engines individually and see the common problems, and choose the problem you can live with and find the pros of each. I'm a guy who likes to choose something on the negatives I guess. Example, I knew the wrx handles like butter on a hot stove but I knew I can fix that easily and I liked everything else about it. No one can tell you the best. All personal preference on what you can live with
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Old 07-10-2014, 09:08 AM   #6
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"The best year is <year owned>!!"
This. Everyone has their own opinions.

And trying to decide between an 03 and an 09?? That's two entirely different animals. 5 year old versus 11 year old cars. 227hp (from the factory, probably less now) or 265hp. Beaten to hell and most likely high miles or possibly just beaten to hell.
2L vs. 2.5L is like the smallest of the differences.


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Old 07-10-2014, 09:28 AM   #7
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Well if you get an old one you can use the money you save to swap it and then have a fresh start. But if that isn't what your looking for I'd say the newer the better.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:06 AM   #8
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2011 WRX would be ideal, but if you can't go that new, get at least an 09. Better turbo, injectors, fp, intercooler from factory.

Always go with the newest you can afford. Things have changed drastically over the last decade in turbo tech.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:08 AM   #9
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02-03 or 06-07 can't go wrong

Bugeyes are my personal favorite
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:16 AM   #10
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2011 WRX would be ideal, but if you can't go that new, get at least an 09. Better turbo, injectors, fp, intercooler from factory.
What? Pretty sure the injectors, fp and I/C are the same.

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Always go with the newest you can afford. Things have changed drastically over the last decade in turbo tech.
For most makes, not for Subaru.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:28 AM   #11
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Buy a few of them, see what works best and drive the ones you don't want off a cliff.

Tough to tell you what to buy when a bugeye could be $4k and an '09 could be $15k.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:42 AM   #12
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02-07 Ftw!
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:15 PM   #13
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07 for 4 years until I got the 2015. Honestly I liked my 07 a lot more. Best car I've ever owned. 08 and up people had motor issues....

06-07 are amazing, great motor, mine was heavily modified, bigger turbo, injectors, fuel pump, Intercooler. On a stock block and put 50k miles of abuse on those parts and never had one major issue. I sold it with 120k miles and leak down and compression test looked like the motor was new.

Amazing reliable year and motor! At least it was for me..
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2011 WRX would be ideal, but if you can't go that new, get at least an 09. Better turbo, injectors, fp, intercooler from factory.

Always go with the newest you can afford. Things have changed drastically over the last decade in turbo tech.
Just horrible advice. I'd get a GC. Don't want no new WRX. OPINIONS!!

And why is a 2011 ideal? Why not a 2012? Or a 2010? Please explain this ideal law of turbodynamics.

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02-03 or 06-07 can't go wrong

Bugeyes are my personal favorite
Disagree. At least with the first part. Would much rather have an 04/05 than an 06/07.



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Old 07-10-2014, 12:38 PM   #15
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Anything but an '08 WRX and you'll be good.
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Anything but an '08 WRX and you'll be good.
The first solid fact.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:34 PM   #17
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The first solid fact.
I never got this. Suddenly, the motor from the beloved 06-07 WRX isn't good enough?

The car is only an OE turbo swap, springs, and swaybars (far less than $1k, minus whatever you can get for selling your stock parts) away from an 09.

That's hardly a reason to outright avoid an 08, while inferring an equally-ugly 09 is perfectly fine.

Seriously, it's comparatively nothing to give an 08 the 09 upgrades on the used market.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:39 PM   #18
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Just horrible advice. I'd get a GC. Don't want no new WRX. OPINIONS!!

And why is a 2011 ideal? Why not a 2012? Or a 2010? Please explain this ideal law of

Opinions. How do they work?
I like the wide body of the 2011-2014 more than any other body style. And, as stated, the 09+ has much better hardware than earlier years. You would be spending money to try and get an older MY to come close to the stock performance of the 09+.

"Opinion" leaves a lot up in the air, but buying an older, higher mileage, older tech WRX makes no sense to me if you can afford something newer (and if you can't afford something other than a 12 year old wrx, I'd suggest saving up more or buying a different car because maintenance would be to expensive anyway).
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I like the wide body of the 2011-2014 more than any other body style. And, as stated, the 09+ has much better hardware than earlier years. You would be spending money to try and get an older MY to come close to the stock performance of the 09+.
You'd hardly spend any money. It's only a turbo ($500 used?), OE swaybars (cheap) and OE springs (cheap). Plus, you sell off your TD04 for a couple hundred, your stock springs and bars for another couple hundred.

$100 cable and flash a VF52 map, and I bet you're out the door for around $500 total converting the car, sans the grill or whatever the minor cosmetic change was.

People make the biggest deal about how you should stay away from the 08. Honestly, you'd save yourself a good deal of money buying a significantly cheaper 08, making it an 09 hardware wise, vs. buying an 09 in the first place.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:53 PM   #20
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I prefer the 11-14 if you get an 08+ as well. If you don't want to mess with it, then don't buy an 08, as others have said. Get whichever you prefer the looks of the best. There's all this talk of engine problems on the 08+, which I have seen plenty of horror stories, but people always write about the bad versus the good. There's these X people telling their stories, but that number is relatively small compared to the amount of people with those years who haven't had problems. Just whatever you get, maintain it with good fluids, monitor it, and you should be good. Do research before throwing stuff on it, no matter what the year.
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Generally speaking, most people do not want to go swapping turbos on a car they just bought. The price of the 08 vs 09 isn't that big that it would warrant buying a year older model with lower performance. Sure it's "just" a turbo swap, sway bars and springs away from an 09, but for the small savings, is it worth it?

I personally think the 08 WRX does not look nearly as good as the 09. I don't know what the parts differences are, and honestly don't care to know, but again, most people don't want to go changing bumpers, grills, and painting a car they just bought.

Start with a car that is a better base, for a small premium, and avoid the headaches vs. starting with a car you need to upgrade off the bat to compare for a small cost savings. Two different schools of thought, who's right and who's wrong? Who knows.
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Old 07-10-2014, 02:04 PM   #22
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I'm not advocating someone buy an 08 over an 09 (just noted that it might actually work out better $ wise).

I just meant there's no reason to specifically avoid the '08. Sure, it depends on the person. For someone who does their own wrenching, the entire swap is a half day affair, if that. Might be worth the $ savings, might be worth opening up available cars to purchase (maybe you can find the color/options you want in an 08, not in an 09, etc.)

It really is amazing how an entire community can label one car the worst WRX ever, and another car the best WRX ever (at the time of its release), over literally only increased spring rates and a turbo swap.
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I'm not advocating someone buy an 08 over an 09 (just noted that it might actually work out better $ wise).

I just meant there's no reason to specifically avoid the '08. Sure, it depends on the person. For someone who does their own wrenching, the entire swap is a half day affair, if that.

It really is amazing how an entire community can label one car the worst WRX ever, and another car the best WRX ever (at the time of its release), over literally only increased spring rates and a turbo swap.
A half day (maybe) if nothing goes wrong, nuts don't strip, you have all the right gaskets, etc. Lots of variables and if building my 08 in my garage taught me anything, it's that nothing goes right and expect delays.

The reasons you listed previously are reasons to avoid the 08. If you don't want to do the work, spend the money on the car that came that way from the factory. $500 for everything you mentioned is far from accurate. A 52 is $600, Tactrix is $180, springs/sways are $150. Then you need the tools, spring compressors etc. For a person who is inquiring about "which WRX to buy" do you really think this is stuff they want to do or are capable of?
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A half day (maybe) if nothing goes wrong, nuts don't strip, you have all the right gaskets, etc. Lots of variables and if building my 08 in my garage taught me anything, it's that nothing goes right and expect delays.

The reasons you listed previously are reasons to avoid the 08. If you don't want to do the work, spend the money on the car that came that way from the factory. $500 for everything you mentioned is far from accurate. A 52 is $600, Tactrix is $180, springs/sways are $150. Then you need the tools, spring compressors etc. For a person who is inquiring about "which WRX to buy" do you really think this is stuff they want to do or are capable of?
For all you know, they're a shadetree. And he's already owned a WRX...just hasn't kept up with them recently. But you're right, that bottom oil line can turn an hour job into a 3 hour job your first go-round.

But anyway, there's no disagreement here. If you work on your own cars, an 08 can make a fine option. If you don't, well, you need to decide what the extra performance is worth to you.

P.S. All the right gaskets? All 2 of them? Which you can re-use if you had to?
P.P.S. Spring compressors are free at autozone if you don't own them.
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Old 07-10-2014, 02:31 PM   #25
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I wouldn't ever reuse an uppipe gasket and I wouldn't reuse turbo -> intercooler gasket. These are things that many people overlook and cause all sorts of issues which you'll end up chasing.
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