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Old 10-18-2001, 07:12 PM   #1
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Is anyone running this successfully? And if so, any suggestions on where I could get a good price? I did a search, and found some general posts, but no real testimonials.

My original hope was that I could beat this thing into submission by just throwing more fuel at it, but I'm beginning to think that some sort of timing control is going to be necessary.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:56 PM   #2
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I had used it, works great, I love that it works on boost.
It takes a little fiddling to get it just right but there are only 4 functions IIRC to mess with
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Old 10-18-2001, 08:22 PM   #3
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Thanks.

It does seems superior to the SuperITC because of the boost threshold setting.

$555 retail, though! Geez! An entire MSD ignition that will retard under boost is, like $350 or something. Of course, the TMC1 looks much easier to install.

May I ask where you got your TMC1?
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Old 10-19-2001, 12:27 AM   #4
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I've got it too and it works very well. Took a few runs to redline in 4th to get it dialed in with no pinging on one of the hotest days of the summer. Since then, everything's a-ok at 5-6 psi.

I'd still like to get a J&S Safeguard to get better performance, but in the mean time, the TMC1 does the job keeping my engine in one piece.

I got mine with my ASR Stage 2 turbo kit and installation was simple.
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Old 10-19-2001, 12:36 AM   #5
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Thanks.

It does seems superior to the SuperITC because of the boost threshold setting.

$555 retail, though! Geez! An entire MSD ignition that will retard under boost is, like $350 or something. Of course, the TMC1 looks much easier to install.

May I ask where you got your TMC1?
Got it with a TC kit
the MSD wont work IIRC since we have the ignitors and coil in one. and can't isolate them as the MSD needs?
You can get it cheaper than that (duh hehe) just shop around.
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Old 10-19-2001, 01:10 PM   #6
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Split Second offer very healthy volume discounts. When I got my voltage clamp for them they sent me a dealer price sheet. If you can get an order of 5 together you should be able to save a good deal of money on each timing controller.

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Old 10-19-2001, 02:25 PM   #7
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Split Second offer very healthy volume discounts. When I got my voltage clamp for them they sent me a dealer price sheet. If you can get an order of 5 together you should be able to save a good deal of money on each timing controller.

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I shudder at the thought of trying to organize a group buy around here!

Can anyone suggest a place with good prices? My shopping around hasn't produced very many good hits yet.
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Old 10-19-2001, 02:35 PM   #8
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I shudder at the thought of trying to organize a group buy around here!
Understandable, but I think the discount is around $200 per unit or so IIRC, so it may be worth it to you.

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Old 10-19-2001, 06:45 PM   #9
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Understandable, but I think the discount is around $200 per unit or so IIRC, so it may be worth it to you.

Aaron
I just called Split Second, and they told me that the TMC1 units are typically made to order with specific tweaks for specific applications. Furthermore, most of their sales are OEM or bundled applications, so they don't even do much retail per se.

So this explains why I'm having such a hard time finding one.

I did ask about a volume discount, and they quoted me a price that was better than retail, but not anywhere near a $200 delta. Maybe if I had a reseller's license it would've been closer to the price on your list, Aaron.

Anyways, I'm trying to decide if it's worth the pain to try and arrange a group buy (minimum 5). Also, it's going to be 3-4 weeks before any of them can be made, even if I ordered just one.

Might have to settle for an ITC after all.
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Old 10-19-2001, 09:23 PM   #10
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i was thinking about this unit before i got my ITC. is there any issue's with CE lights when installed?
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Old 10-22-2001, 01:55 AM   #11
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I hate the CE lights with my APEXi ITC, and hate the price of the Split Second for what it does. Good reasons for why I am helping my friend's new startup company www.digitalECMsystems.com (aka www.proECM.com) develop a nice boost referenced timing controller with NO CE lights. Stay tuned!
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Old 10-22-2001, 02:19 PM   #12
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I hate the CE lights with my APEXi ITC, and hate the price of the Split Second for what it does. Good reasons for why I am helping my friend's new startup company www.digitalECMsystems.com (aka www.proECM.com) develop a nice boost referenced timing controller with NO CE lights. Stay tuned!
Any ETA on this controller? Do I recall correctly from other posts that you're in the proto testing phase? How is it going? Also, is there a ballpark price you're shooting for?
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Old 10-22-2001, 11:56 PM   #13
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The prototype works well. I like it better than the ITC, and the next prototype will be a printed circuit board of which we'll have two, so while one is being messed with or reprogramed or on the test bench we can have the other in a car.

We have a couple of new features to add to it to will be well worth it too, and the designer's wife just had a baby and he has been swamped with that and work at his day job. That is slowing it down a little, along with the process of creating an LLC company...

I can say the price will more more than a APEXi ITC and less than a J&S ultrasafeguard. How much more or less depends on the manufacturing process. I can't release the feature set yet, but I can say that you don't get CE lights, even with over 15 degrees of retard (totally unneccessary to retard that far).
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Old 10-23-2001, 01:29 AM   #14
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So Larry release it before I join the list of blowed-up RS-T's
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Old 10-24-2001, 02:11 AM   #15
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Email me and I might have a few openings for prototype testing later, but you can still blowed it up if you aint carefull wit' the boost knob.
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Old 10-26-2001, 07:08 PM   #16
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i got one for my supercharged tacoma for 200 bucks ,,

www.maxxautoworks.com

reduces the pinging by retardign the timing caused by toyotas programming to advance the timing through the 2200-2800 rpm range for better fuel economy..ahhhh
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