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Old 07-06-2006, 11:54 PM   #1
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Default Gruppe-S Equal Length Header - gauging interest for GB

Hey all,

We just received the first prototype of our upcoming equal length header. This is obviously a prototype since the uppipe is a twinscroll design (that's for a different project we're working on). We're having the uppipe redone right now and it will be a 2 into 1 design similar to the one used on the APS header uppipe. Also like the APS and Perrin headers, this will require the 2.5L oil pan.

This header will cause you to lose your boxer rumble but it should feature better low to mid-range gains than our current un-equal length header. We will continue to sell the Gruppe-S V2 Header in addition to this new header. We will retail this header for $649 shipped and it will include the new uppipe. This thread has been posted to gauge interest in this header to see if people would be interested in a group buy. We would be looking for 10-15 interested persons and deposits would not be taken until we had at least that many. If and only if you are seriously interested (know for certain that you will buy one of these), please add your name to the list below. Feel free to contact us with any questions you might have.



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Old 07-07-2006, 12:18 AM   #2
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i'm very interested!!

please add my name on the list
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Old 07-07-2006, 01:12 AM   #3
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Hmmm... if there will be design for the normal 2 bolt uppipe flange on these headers like Perrins AND if the awesome coating is offered... then I'll have to talk to Geoff about these
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:35 AM   #4
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how good is that slip joint?

is it possible to revise it so that it fits the stock uppipe? i think the stock sti uppipe is adequate
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:37 AM   #5
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You guys should do a 599.99 GB price

Also any pretapps for EGT's? Does'nt appear to be any but I thought I would ask anyway.
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:32 PM   #6
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Hmmm... if there will be design for the normal 2 bolt uppipe flange on these headers like Perrins AND if the awesome coating is offered... then I'll have to talk to Geoff about these
This header will only be offered with the uppipe. The reason for that is explained below.

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how good is that slip joint?

is it possible to revise it so that it fits the stock uppipe? i think the stock sti uppipe is adequate
The slip joint is excellent and it's the same one we use on our V2 headers. We've never had a problem with it.

We will only be offering these headers with an uppipe because on the STi, an aftermarket uppipe with a larger diamter still makes more power and better spool than the stock piece. At the offered price and even with the uppipe, this header will still be competitively priced as compared to other equal length short runner headers on the market.

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You guys should do a 599.99 GB price

Also any pretapps for EGT's? Does'nt appear to be any but I thought I would ask anyway.
$599 likely will be the GB price. $649 is what we will retail it for. There are no plans to offer a pretapped version for EGTs at the moment. Sorry.

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Old 07-07-2006, 05:33 PM   #7
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Old 07-07-2006, 10:40 PM   #8
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too late. Aps owner. I'd jump all over this if I didn't have the aps though. So for interest, yes.
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Old 07-08-2006, 02:30 AM   #9
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I am interested, but how soon will they be available?
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Old 07-08-2006, 03:51 PM   #10
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Will there be an option for the thermal coating?
thanks,
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Old 07-08-2006, 04:41 PM   #11
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ETA on product delivery?

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Old 07-09-2006, 11:41 AM   #12
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Offer it ceramic coated.
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Old 07-09-2006, 12:03 PM   #13
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I would be interested, but it wouldnt work with my externally gated uppipe =( looks like im going to keep my V2 for now
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Old 07-10-2006, 07:09 PM   #14
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I am interested, but how soon will they be available?
ETA would be likely be 4 weeks from close of GB. I would guess that these headers will be ready 8-10 weeks from today if we didn't do a GB.

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Will there be an option for the thermal coating?
thanks,
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We will definitely offer these coated. I would guess that coating will add from $200-250 to the cost.

Thanks,

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Old 07-10-2006, 08:08 PM   #15
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interested...
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Old 07-10-2006, 09:57 PM   #16
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Old 07-13-2006, 11:56 AM   #17
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If we wanted could you place a EGT bung for a price before shipping or get it coated?
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:50 PM   #18
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put me on the list. very interested
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Old 07-13-2006, 05:20 PM   #19
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If we wanted could you place a EGT bung for a price before shipping or get it coated?
We could definitely do that for you.

Thanks,

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Man! I wish these were available now. I just went through an Invidia and an Ebay header with horrible results. My car is down until I get another brand of header. Its either APS or Perrin but if these were in production, I'd be buying the Gruppe-S header today. If you need a guinea pig let me know. I'm planning on dyno comparisons too.

Things that I would like to see in headers are:
321 stainless (superior than 304, better for heat)
Optional ceramic coating
EGT location(s)
optional EWG up-pipe
Headers can accept other rotated kits
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Old 07-17-2006, 05:43 AM   #22
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I'm definitely in on this! add me to the list please
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Old 07-17-2006, 01:46 PM   #23
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The battle of the generic made in China EL headers!

It's now down to... Who can offer a better pricing!? *drumroll*
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1021403
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:11 PM   #24
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Man! I wish these were available now. I just went through an Invidia and an Ebay header with horrible results. My car is down until I get another brand of header. Its either APS or Perrin but if these were in production, I'd be buying the Gruppe-S header today. If you need a guinea pig let me know. I'm planning on dyno comparisons too.

Things that I would like to see in headers are:
321 stainless (superior than 304, better for heat)
Optional ceramic coating
EGT location(s)
optional EWG up-pipe
Headers can accept other rotated kits
Thanks for the offer. Good to talk to you on the phone a few minutes ago.

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Quote:
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The battle of the generic made in China EL headers!

It's now down to... Who can offer a better pricing!? *drumroll*
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1021403
These are actually not made in China. In any event, even if they were, I don't think that would be a huge issue because lots of very well know and well reputed JDM manufacturers (HKS, Greddy, Tomei, Apex'i) outsource manufacturing to factories all over Asia. We happen to share some of these same factories.

Thanks,

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im curious also. which type of stainless steel is this made out of?/
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