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Old 08-02-2000, 02:47 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Setting up a Groupbuy for Stainless Catback exhast for Legacy's

To all the guys out there with a BD5 Chassis Legacy (aka MY95-99). I'm getting a full stainless steel mandrel cat-back exhast system made. It uses T-304 stainless and utilizes a resonator as well. It's two pieces and the muffler comes with adjustablity for back pressure. I'm getting made by X-Tec. It's 100% bolt-on and made in Canada using a jig. The anticipated cost right now is $580 US or $870 CDN + shipping. (This is with a run of 5 units)... so hopefully we can get this puppy for less that $550US but it'll mean that would be around 10-15 people.

Please email me if you need more info. By the way, there was an article about X-tec stuff in Turbo Magazine awhile back, but they do alot of custom work for Porsches, Mercedes, Lexus, etc... I've seen their workmanship and all I have to say is that you'll get what you pay for. Very, very nice.

Anyways, thanks to all
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Old 08-03-2000, 05:15 AM   #2
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So what would this exhaust look like (muffler and tip)? I may be interested if it's not too obnoxious looking. Does this X-Tec company make their own mufflers, or will they be using a universal muffler from some other manufacturer. If it is a universal, do you know which one?

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Old 08-03-2000, 07:31 AM   #3
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X-Tec makes their own muffler's in house... for all those that are interested I'll email you photos of the muffler. Since it's a tuneable muffler, it can be adjusted for the right backpressure to allow for no loss in torque in the low end and still have a large gain of hp in the hi end. no screwdrivers are necessary to adjust the insert.
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Old 08-03-2000, 04:33 PM   #4
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Thanks for the pictures, but I'm afraid the muffler and tip are what I would term "obnoxious". I'm looking for a 2.5" or 3" rolled tip - just like the stock one, basically, but maybe a little bigger. I just don't at all like the 4" non-rolled tip look - too boy-racer for my taste.

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Old 08-04-2000, 06:42 AM   #5
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No probs, well the only reason why this tip style is used is b/c otherwise the tuneable silencer cannot be used with a rolled tip. And plus, a resonated & rolled tip in a larger size would definately increase the total weight of the exhast system.

If someone can tell me how to post the photos on the replys I'd be glad to do so.
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Old 08-04-2000, 08:38 PM   #6
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Pat, you do realize the that tip on the 2.5GT is 3.5" right? The muffler pictured is only a 4" tip. I'm not sure if you want to get the new muffler for looks or for actual performance. As for myself, function over form is what I follow, since something that would decrease the total weight of the car while providing maximum power in a set-ups would be more important that the look. From what I've seen, even the Stromung tip is a 3.5" Rolled one, but is still quite heavy. I personally would like to get a dual tip Stromung, but it lacks the tuneablity factor (which will save you money down the road) if you go with forced induction or higher compression. A 2.25" only stays a certain volume, but with an adjustable 2.5" system, backpressure can be tuned to imitate a 2.25" system, while still being able to be come a true 2.5" system when needed.
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Old 08-04-2000, 10:18 PM   #7
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GTGUY,

Sounds tempting. Please email me the picts - vcmangtb@hotmail.com.

It would be great to get some real life feedback on this system. Anyone have this setup already?

I know the stromung that I had had a wierd standing wave problem in the wagon cabin. I just don't want to go thru shipping stuff back and forth again. I wish someone in the Phoenix area have something decent on their Legacy for me to listen to.

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Old 08-05-2000, 05:23 PM   #8
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GTBGuy - I measured, it's actually only 3". Still, that's bigger than a I thought it was, I figured it was a 2.5" tip. Anyway, I'm still not sure I could go as big as 4", and I definitely want a rolled tip.

I have 3.5" rolled tips on my Mustang, they're from a company called Cone Engineering (the same company makes Megs, the megaphone shaped resonated tips that hot rodders often use). They're polished stainless steel, and they're just a single layer of steel rolled over (inside) at the tip. They aren't any heavier than a non-rolled tip would be. I have seen tips that were a double layer of steel all the way - I actually ordered some from NOPI and was very surprised at how heavy they were, so I sent them back.
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Old 08-05-2000, 06:31 PM   #9
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Pat, I guess if you did want just the muffler it would still work, you can just get a tip that you like welded on. But the thing is that it's an integrated system, and thus requires the tip, or else if you did use a smaller diameter tip, you wouldn't have the adjustablity for backpressure & sound. Also it wouldn't change the price of the exhast system.
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Old 08-05-2000, 07:59 PM   #10
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By the way, for all that's interested, I just wanted to tell you that the muffler is rebuilidble... so 10yrs down the line, if the stainless steel mesh compound for the sound suppression goes south, you can open the canister muffler up and just put in some new dampening material.

Just thought I'd let everyone know.

I hope everyone has a great weekend
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