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Old 10-29-2001, 09:36 PM   #26
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sgalper has actually taken on the front end of this operation (if, indeed, it progresses), I'm just planning on doing the grunt work.

It would be the entire manual set for the 2002 MY. I'm only going to organize one CD-ROM!

Most likely what I see happening is that sgalper provides the hard copy to me, I do the work, burn the CDs, then ship those back to sgalper for him to distribute to those who pay him.

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Old 10-29-2001, 09:47 PM   #27
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Sounds good, Julian.

Bimmer has mentioned that someone has posted the maintenance portion of the manual. Would someone tell me where it is posted?
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Old 10-29-2001, 10:06 PM   #28
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ok sgalper

I'm in.. let me know when/how you need the money
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Old 10-29-2001, 10:49 PM   #29
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Everyone,
I ordered the service manual from SubaruParts.com. The WRX manual only is $266.65 and it consists of seven volumes. The manual for all 2002 Imprezas is 330.39 and consists of eight volumes. Shipping is $24. and Handling is $0.95. I can amend my order and receive all eight volumes if that is what the partnership requires. I placed all persons that are interested on my buddy list. I will be using that for messages to members of the partnership. There are still partnership places available, but once the number necessary to keep the partnership cost to $25.00 is reached, the partnership will close.
The proceedure that will be used is that I will mail one volume to Julian at a time. When finished with that volume, he will return it to me and the next volume will be sent. I will use FedEx or an equivalent carrier. Julian states that his best estimate is that the CD will take two to three months to complete. Given the estimate of work necessary, it is my opinion that time frame is reasonable.
Anyone not in the partnership that wants to join send me a private e-mail. Your name will be added to my buddy list and you will start to receive status updates. Any questions can be directed to my personal e-mail address.
General information only will be on this thead. Notification when the partnership closes will be on the thread.

Steve Galper, MD sgalper@u.arizona.edu
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Old 10-29-2001, 11:50 PM   #30
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Steve, you probably want the 8th manual (Manual #2 to be precise). I assumed the same thing that you did, until I got the turbo manual (#3) and realized that #2 covers many of the common engine systems and parts that the turbo-specific manual does not (e.g. cooling, lubrication, starter, alternator, etc.)

I have 7 manuals, all but the transmission manual. Didn't figure I'd ever have the guts to tear the transmission down, so I skipped it.

Here is the 2002 Impreza Maintenance Schedule

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Old 10-30-2001, 02:01 AM   #31
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Will the CD be compatible with non Mac PCs, ie IBM
standard PCs?
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Old 10-30-2001, 09:51 AM   #32
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Julian,
Can you reply to the above post. Given the number of IBM machines vs. Macs, I would think that the Windows version is what will be produced.

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Old 10-30-2001, 10:31 AM   #33
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Julian,
Can you reply to the above post. Given the number of IBM machines vs. Macs, I would think that the Windows version is what will be produced.

Steve Galper
if you'd re-read the above post, you'll see that it is readable with both OS.

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Old 10-30-2001, 11:13 AM   #34
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The CD-ROM will be authored on a PC, so it will definitely be able to be read on a PC. The confusion, I guess, comes from my mention of the Autorun capability. PCs will have Autorun capability, while Macs will not. However, it is viewable/useable on both computers. It'll just be a little bit better on a PC.

There was mention in previous WRX threads that the "WRX" set isn't as complete as they would lead you to believe. There are vital parts of information contained within the "2.5L Only" manual as well.

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Old 10-30-2001, 02:36 PM   #35
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This sounds great, I can't wait to get my copy (well, I guess I can wait 2-3 months).

I'm getting a 2.5 TS, and I'm a Mac guy, so I REALLY need that eighth volume and Mac compatibility. It sounds like both of these issues have been resolved, anyway.

Thanks for doing this Steve and Julian!
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Old 10-30-2001, 08:45 PM   #36
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Everyone,
There are now ten members of the partnership, including Julian. I am willing to entertain the idea of adding 3-5 additional members as the entire manual cost approx. $350. In addition there will be the cost of delivery of the volumes to Julian. I am willing to absorb some of those costs since I will retain possession of the original manuals. However a percentage of the costs will need to be absorbed by the partnership and a necessary cost of getting the work completed. My expectation at this time is total costs to be under $400. for the manuals the CDs and shipping of the volumes between Julian and me.

Cordially,
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Old 10-30-2001, 08:50 PM   #37
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Certainly very reasonable. I can't believe this project is on, almost too good to be true. Many thanks to Steve & Julian.
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Old 10-30-2001, 09:09 PM   #38
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I hope to god you guys are not going to try to use a desktop scanner to do this. You'll go crazy first. In addition, 3500 pages won't fit on a CD rom in any appreciable resolution. Maybe 2 or 3 .

You need to find access to high speed duplex scanners. Kinda like the super high speed duplex bell and howell scanners we have at work. If they were unbound, I could probably scan and TIF them in a day.

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Old 10-31-2001, 08:43 AM   #39
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If there's an open slot, sign me up for a copy too.

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Old 10-31-2001, 11:47 AM   #40
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jimb, you know not of what you speak . Check it:

http://www.jetlink.net/~okayfine/su/TMP17.gif and
http://www.jetlink.net/~okayfine/su/Emission.pdf

The pages in the Subaru manual are line drawings, not pictures. So a scan as a 300dpi TIF, drop that down to 100dpi and save as a grayscale GIF bring page sizes down to 100K per page. When all is said and done, 4000+ pages can fit on a CD. "Trust me. I know what I'm doing." It's not the fastest or best way, but not everyone has access to the best equipment.

And if it DOES go over one CD, CDs are cheap. I anticipate I can fit everything on one CD, however.
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Old 10-31-2001, 02:16 PM   #41
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I am in if there is still a slot available. WRX 5MT.

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Old 10-31-2001, 10:54 PM   #42
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Me too, if you can.
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Old 11-01-2001, 01:36 AM   #43
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Can i please get in this !!
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Old 11-01-2001, 11:55 PM   #44
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Everyone,
The partnership is closed. If anyone would like to get onto the waiting list, then please e-mail me on personal messaging and not on the thread.

Thanks,
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Old 11-02-2001, 11:19 AM   #45
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i dont care about the partnership or anything, but i'd be willing to pay for a copy of the cd.....please let me know.....
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Old 11-02-2001, 01:54 PM   #46
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Everyone,
I have received several e-mails from interested parties requesting admission to the partnership. For many reasons, I am compelled to limit the partnership size. However, I would be happy to consult with anyone and help to establish additional partnerships. I would not expect or accept any compensation for my assistance. I can be e-mailed at sgalper@u.arizona.edu

Cordially
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Old 11-02-2001, 03:16 PM   #47
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wrx182, it's the partnership that makes this process somewhat legal. Everyone in the partnership is paying a portion of the full costs to gain access to the manuals among the partners.
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Old 11-05-2001, 11:53 PM   #48
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wrx182, it's the partnership that makes this process somewhat legal. Everyone in the partnership is paying a portion of the full costs to gain access to the manuals among the partners.
This project is not even slightly legal. The service manuals are copyrighted material (even if they lack copyright notices), and you just can't produce copies legally. Dr. Galpin, being an attorney, should know that.

A partnership could legally buy a copy of the manuals to be physically shared, but not copied.

The notion that paying part of the cost makes it partially legal is pure nonsense. There's nothing in the copyright law that allows partnerships to make copies. If there was such a provision, why not allow the partnership to expand beyond the 10-15 members and divide the costs equally?

-Dave
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Old 11-06-2001, 12:13 AM   #49
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sorry folks... legal complaints are coming in and I am shutting this down.
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