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Old 04-10-2001, 06:24 AM   #1
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Question What Wheel Offset is right for a lowered Legacy?

My current wheels and tires are mildly rubbing the outside fender well and I want to get a new set of wheels. I posted a similar message a while back to see if there was any other alternative to buying a new set of wheels. Ive come to the conclusion that new wheels would be the safest way. I have H&R Springs and Ver. 5 Struts on my 99 GT. It currently has Team Loco 134's with 215 45 17 rubber. I'm not sure what the offset is on the Team Locos. So what would be a safe offset for a Legacy that has been lowered about an inch and a half?
http://www.rimone.com/frame2.htm
(Go to the Primax wheel section)
Check out the 618s and the 695s. Let me know what you think. By the way has anyone heard of Primax Wheels?? They only sell them in 17X7.5. Both of these wheels have a +38 offset. Do you think they will fit??
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Old 04-10-2001, 06:49 AM   #2
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All you had to do was ask...I got all the info you need!

First, the Team Locos are 17*7, offset of +47mm.

Now, about Primax. +38mm offset is a SERIOUS no-no, since that will make these stick out 10mm FURTHER than the TeamLocos, and even further if you get a 7.5" width.

I would stick with a 7" wide wheel, and try to get a +50mm or GREATER offset. I know ADR has some nice wheels that look good, and are fairly inexpensive. Maybe talk to Chris @ TRi Tuning.

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Old 04-10-2001, 07:24 AM   #3
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ForceFED's on the mark. Anything under +48 is a no-no. +48 works, but isn't ideal. I went with P1s, because I know that they fit perfectly. I'd stay clear of Team Loco, though they're fine as long as you realize that you get what you pay for.

Buying into Subaru land means that you're also buying into the big offsets, which limits wheel options. Not a big deal really, since the stock Subaru wheels are light and strong.

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Old 04-10-2001, 07:43 AM   #4
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doesn't the tire matter, too? i believe that some tires "bulge" more than others, reducing clearance between it and the fender.

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Old 04-10-2001, 07:47 AM   #5
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Thanks Kevin,

I was a little foggy about what wheel offset was really measuring. I read a good post on this in the Suspension Forum. So +50 would probably be ideal. I will check out the ADRs.

Thanks for the info,
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Old 04-10-2001, 09:41 AM   #6
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Right you are, Roger. For instance, my Dunlop 9000s are "wider" in the 215 size, than a Bridgestone S02. But indeed, tire width matters in the rubbing department.

Just another thing to consider. Tire Rack usually has all that information at their website.

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Old 04-10-2001, 04:30 PM   #7
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I wouldn't even waste my time dealing with a discount tire house for Subaru wheels. Go to Mike Shields at SPD tuning or somewhere that deals with Subaru's. I currently have Speedline Super tourismos 17x7 with 215/45 Toyo's and my car is dropped about an inch and they never rub and they never will! They are +55 offset, same as stock. I wouldn't go any lower than a +52 or +53 offset. That is just from experience. I had Enkeis that rubbed like crazy!!
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Old 04-10-2001, 05:54 PM   #8
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Nooooooooooo. That just rains on my parade. So the Enkeis are a definite "no go"? I was looking at getting some Enkei RF-1s. Are they just not good with lowered legacys or does it also apply all Subarus? <sigh> Buying wheels for a Subaru really sucks.

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Old 04-10-2001, 05:56 PM   #9
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Forgot something... Enkei RF-1 16x7s, hope that helps me some.

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Old 04-10-2001, 07:28 PM   #10
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I have the TEIN softs w/ AGX's and running the Speedline Supertourismo w/ Falken GRB2 215/40/17's no rubbing at all In the winter I will be using the RS2000's in the 17x7 w/50mm offset and running 215/45/17 Yokohama Gardex 310's (or if Nokian comes out w/ the 215/45/17 size for the NRW's I'm going with those).

No rubbing at all!

BTW, here's what the RS2000's look like :
<IMG SRC="http://www.ucalgary.ca/~jacho/rs2.jpg" border=0>

For those guys who like this wheel I can hook you guys up w/ the following package :

(4) 17x7" RS2000 wheels w/+50mm offset (18lbs each wheel)
(4) Falken GRB1 215/45/17 ZR tires
(4) Hub-centric rings
(20)Tuner lug nuts
(1) Lug nut tool

All for $945US incl shipping in the continental US.

Otherwise, if you're in Canada it's $1966CAD including shipping and taxes to your door (shipped via DHL)

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Old 04-10-2001, 08:13 PM   #11
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Yeah, totally listen to GTGUY, on my 94 Jag I replaced the factory tires (Pirelli [sp?])with the exact same size Kelly Springfields and the Kellys rubbed like nobodys business. Simple rule of thumb with the Soobs stay above 50mm offsets and your life should be "rub-free"
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Not trying to rain on anyones business, but TRi Tuning is selling the EXACT same type of wheel/tire package (17" ADR RS2000 with 215/45 Falken GR-Betas) for $836+shipping. I was just quoted that from them, and it included lugs (which you won't see anyway, since there is a cover over them). They are so cheap because ADR is discontinuing the RS2000 wheel.

Just thought I would post about the good deal. I am not related with TRi at all.

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Old 04-12-2001, 01:26 AM   #13
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I'm with CtGT... On the Legacy turbo we used to have we had Speedline Super Tourismo 17x7 with 55 offset. Ran them with Dunlop w10 215/45-17 (slightly wider than other 215/45)and no rubbing at all. The suspension was eibach and kyb struts (low). Stay with +50 offset.

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Dam, Force, thanks for that update on the ADR rims/wheel pkg from TRi. That is about 210 per tire/rim. Hmmmm. I wonder when the IRS check will be here???
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Yes...I have the Team Dynamics MortorSports in a 17*7 w/215/45/17 AVS Sports... Very nice, with little rubbing on HARD cornering. Rear fenders are rolled tho. Oh and I have H&R's w/KONI adjustables.
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Old 04-14-2001, 12:17 AM   #16
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Wow Guys! Thanks for all the information. I am now a much more educated wheel person. Let me throw this one out there and see if you guys like my choice.

+50 and above seems to be the offset of choice. I love the OZ Superturismos but man they are pricey. If anybody finds them for under $1000 for 17X7s let me know.


<IMG SRC="http://216.242.153.40/MembersList/UserPics/3681/MonzaAnthracite.jpg" border=0>

These look pretty close to the Super Turismos.

I think what I am going to end up getting are the Team Dynamics Monza in Anthrocite. 17X7 +50. I was thinking about the Kumho Ecsta Supras 205-40-17 for my tire selection. I would like to go with 215-40-17 but am a little afraid of tire rub with just a +50 offset.

By some freak chance does anyone out there have a similar setup on their lowered legacy??


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