Dunlop SP5000 and 17" wheels?

Avedis · 10-21-2001, 09:30 AM

Does anybody have 17" Dunlop SP5000 tires on a WRX wagon? The size tire that looks like the closest speedo match (that would also fit on a 17x7.5" rim) is a 235/45/17 but I'm kind of skeptical that it would fit.

Has anybody tried, or does anybody know for sure? The speedo difference would only be about 1mph at 60mph (according to an online tire calculator I used) so I'm mostly just worried about it fitting. I know people have squeezed 255 tires (?!?!) on a sedan but (a) I think they were a different brand, and (b) I'm not sure how they'd fit on a wagon. I did a search but couldn't find any matches with "235* AND dunlop AND wrx". It's not on TireRack's "this tire fits this wheel" but I think the slight speedo difference might be why. Am I hoping for too much?

Thanks!

--jeff

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rkkwan · 10-21-2001, 11:46 AM

Your calculations are a bit off, sir. 225/45R17 will be just bigger than stock and 215/45R17 will be just smaller. For some reason SOA recommends 215/45 on their optional BBS, but 225/45 is probably the better choice.

BTW, there's no reason to put very wide SP5000 on your car. If you have to drive in snow, then 215 or 225 are much safer choice, and if you don't have to drive in snow, then don't get SP5000.

-Ray

Avedis · 10-21-2001, 06:42 PM

The problem is that, unless I've become incompetent at net searches, Dunlop doesn't make the SP5000 in 215 or 225 with a 17" rim... hence my original question. The only SP5000 tires that Dunlop makes in 17" are

275/40WR17
245/45/WR17
235/45/WR17
215/50/VR17
245/50/WR17

Hence my original question...

Unless somebody can suggest a tire that will fit better on 17x7.5" rims that does as well in the snow and wet while still doing fairly good in the dry.

--jeff

rkkwan · 10-21-2001, 08:14 PM

Oh, me bad. Forget that there are really limited all-season choices for 17" sizes. The only two that I know of that comes in 215/45 or 225/45 are Pirelli P7000 SuperSport and Toyo FZ4. The Pirellis aren't that good in the snow, but I've heard some good things about the Toyos. Not first hand experience in the latter, though.

Good luck.

-Ray

Luke@tirerack · 10-22-2001, 08:52 AM

Take a look at the
225/45-17 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
Rather expensive but, it is a very good tire

Luke

Avedis · 10-22-2001, 07:50 PM

How does this tire fare in light snow? The ratings on TireRack say 0, but it's not rated N/A for snow. That rating (from what I can tell) is user-submitted, so it might be really subjective (like some Buick owner that gets upset that the traction in snow isn't just as good as it is in the dry.

I'm hoping to get the big brake kit (which would necessitate 17s) but that means I have seriously limited options when it comes to anything that has decent light snow traction. I know the Dunlops do well which is why I asked about them in particular, but I'll certainly consider the Michelins if they do alright in the snow (while still having good wet/dry traction like the Dunlops do).

--jeff

WagonMonster · 10-22-2001, 08:06 PM

Actually both the Raceline 15 and 16 inch rims will fit over big brakes.

I personally recommend the Toyo FZ4's for a 17" All-Season Tire.

10-21-2001, 09:30 AM	#1
Avedis Scooby Specialist Member#: 8171 Join Date: Jul 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Mountlake Terrace Vehicle: 2005 WRX STi Blue / Gold	Dunlop SP5000 and 17" wheels? Does anybody have 17" Dunlop SP5000 tires on a WRX wagon? The size tire that looks like the closest speedo match (that would also fit on a 17x7.5" rim) is a 235/45/17 but I'm kind of skeptical that it would fit. Has anybody tried, or does anybody know for sure? The speedo difference would only be about 1mph at 60mph (according to an online tire calculator I used) so I'm mostly just worried about it fitting. I know people have squeezed 255 tires (?!?!) on a sedan but (a) I think they were a different brand, and (b) I'm not sure how they'd fit on a wagon. I did a search but couldn't find any matches with "235* AND dunlop AND wrx". It's not on TireRack's "this tire fits this wheel" but I think the slight speedo difference might be why. Am I hoping for too much? Thanks! --jeff * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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10-21-2001, 11:46 AM	#2
rkkwan Scooby Specialist Member#: 5596 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Houston, TX Vehicle: 2010 Honda Fit Sport Black	Your calculations are a bit off, sir. 225/45R17 will be just bigger than stock and 215/45R17 will be just smaller. For some reason SOA recommends 215/45 on their optional BBS, but 225/45 is probably the better choice. BTW, there's no reason to put very wide SP5000 on your car. If you have to drive in snow, then 215 or 225 are much safer choice, and if you don't have to drive in snow, then don't get SP5000. -Ray

10-21-2001, 06:42 PM	#3
Avedis Scooby Specialist Member#: 8171 Join Date: Jul 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Mountlake Terrace Vehicle: 2005 WRX STi Blue / Gold	The problem is that, unless I've become incompetent at net searches, Dunlop doesn't make the SP5000 in 215 or 225 with a 17" rim... hence my original question. The only SP5000 tires that Dunlop makes in 17" are 275/40WR17 245/45/WR17 235/45/WR17 215/50/VR17 245/50/WR17 Hence my original question... Unless somebody can suggest a tire that will fit better on 17x7.5" rims that does as well in the snow and wet while still doing fairly good in the dry. --jeff

10-21-2001, 08:14 PM	#4
rkkwan Scooby Specialist Member#: 5596 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Houston, TX Vehicle: 2010 Honda Fit Sport Black	Oh, me bad. Forget that there are really limited all-season choices for 17" sizes. The only two that I know of that comes in 215/45 or 225/45 are Pirelli P7000 SuperSport and Toyo FZ4. The Pirellis aren't that good in the snow, but I've heard some good things about the Toyos. Not first hand experience in the latter, though. Good luck. -Ray

10-22-2001, 08:52 AM	#5
Luke@tirerack Tire Rack Moderator Member#: 1215 Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: The Tire Rack Vehicle: 800 -428-8355 ext. 4362	Take a look at the 225/45-17 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Rather expensive but, it is a very good tire Luke

10-22-2001, 07:50 PM	#6
Avedis Scooby Specialist Member#: 8171 Join Date: Jul 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Mountlake Terrace Vehicle: 2005 WRX STi Blue / Gold	How does this tire fare in light snow? The ratings on TireRack say 0, but it's not rated N/A for snow. That rating (from what I can tell) is user-submitted, so it might be really subjective (like some Buick owner that gets upset that the traction in snow isn't just as good as it is in the dry. I'm hoping to get the big brake kit (which would necessitate 17s) but that means I have seriously limited options when it comes to anything that has decent light snow traction. I know the Dunlops do well which is why I asked about them in particular, but I'll certainly consider the Michelins if they do alright in the snow (while still having good wet/dry traction like the Dunlops do). --jeff

10-22-2001, 08:06 PM	#7
WagonMonster Scooby Guru Member#: 3781 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: San Francisco Vehicle: 2012 Fiat 500 Sport 2009 Subaru Forester X	Actually both the Raceline 15 and 16 inch rims will fit over big brakes. I personally recommend the Toyo FZ4's for a 17" All-Season Tire.