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Old 07-17-2006, 04:12 PM   #1
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Hi, folks. Newbie here. Getting my ducks in a row to order my first Subaru, a 2007 B9 Tribeca. My question:

How do the stock tires perform in the snow?

I live at 8000 ft in the mountains of Northern New Mexico. The roads are well maintained in the winter, but I have a fairly steep driveway that, even freshly plowed, still has a few inches of snow on it all winter. It is slick enough that a 2WD vehicle cannot get up it most of the time once the snows start. Both of my current vehicles are 4WD and the AWD of the Subaru intrigues me. A lot of people up here have Foresters or Outbacks, so the Tribeca ought to fit right in. But how do the stock tires perform? Can they navigate a snowy drive like mine with any reasonable capability? Or will I have to replace them?

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Old 07-17-2006, 08:59 PM   #2
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the stock tires suck in the snow. I would get something differant as far as the tires go. these are to freaking wide.
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:38 PM   #3
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Stock tires don't do too well. I've never gotten stuck but I know that something like a studless winter tire would do a WHOLE lot better.
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:39 PM   #4
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Now that I've said that, what is the stock tire on a Tribeca? lol
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Old 07-17-2006, 10:30 PM   #5
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Now that I've said that, what is the stock tire on a Tribeca? lol
Goodyear Eagle LS 2.

I have Michelin LTX M/S on one of my other vehicles and love 'em, but they don't come in the size I would need. Does anyone have a good recommendation?

Thanks for the feedback, guys.

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Old 07-18-2006, 11:24 PM   #6
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Sound like you definitely need snows. Try the selection guide at www.tirerack.com
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i see a lot of folks up here in alaska doing fine on the stockers, you have some weight on your side with the tri. when i pdi them in the winter they grip like glue, as the tires are brand new. so i would say you'd be fine your first winter, but once a little (like 10k) wear sets in the snow grip diminshes quite a bit. we have the best luck with mastercrafts as far as price/value is concerned. and yes, studs or even studless tires will have insane grip on the tribeca in slick stuff.

if you've got the $$, don't screw around and just get nokians. edit: ok so i looked at their site and i guess they don't make a size for tri? i thought they did. would 255/60r18 fit?

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Old 08-12-2006, 11:52 AM   #13
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Thanks for the feedback, 00Maddog. I don't know if that size would fit or not.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:03 PM   #14
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Well, obviously I bought the Tribeca (see other posts in this subforum).

We are in the midst of our first significant snowfall this year. About 6" over the last 2 days. As I said in the OP above, I have a quarter mile driveway that is steep uphill, so function was important to me. I had decided to try the stock tires out before purchasing a set of winter tires and wheels. I live in the mountains at 8000 ft. elevation, so snow is an issue annually.

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I am impressed. By looking at the tire design, I was afraid that the tires would not slough off the snow adequately, I was concerned about the width and the tires ability to cut through the snow and I was concerned that the smooth aspects of the side of the tires would not bite well. But at this point, early in the winter season admittedly, the tires have performed well. They bite and do not slip. The width does not seem to impede the tire's ability to cut through the snow.

Unless the tire's performance deteriorates over the winter, I will not be purchasing winter tires/wheels.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:51 PM   #15
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Glad to hear that the stock tires do OK in the snow. Probably more a credit to the Tribeca's AWD system than it is to the tires- but if it works, great.

There is not a huge selection of tires in our 255/55-18 size, but one good web forum about it is our friends who own Touaregs. The v8 T-regs wear the same size shoes, and they are a bunch of car enthusiasts with an active forum.

So- check it out at:
http://forums.clubtouareg.com/forum2...6aa2241f19a3e3
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:55 PM   #16
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Just had a snow storm heare in colorado and the stock tire seems to work well. I also looked at the tread and didn't think they would do that well but so far so good. I havent had the opportunity to push tham as hard as I have the Michelin Cross Terains which were great in snow but I see no reason to change. I have 10,000 miles on them.
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Old 11-30-2006, 07:58 AM   #17
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I posted this on the SB9T.com forum:

Ok, seeing all the nasty snow on the west coast has led me to install the winter tires on the Tribeca, even though there is no snow here yet at all. When it comes I want to be ready. My wife has a long commute thus the reason we like Subaru's for winter driving.

As some of you may remember, I purchased a set of Michelin Latitude X-ice winter tires installed on new ASA alloy wheels from Tirerack. I'm in Canada and I was going to Maine to get my father's tribeca so I had the dealer there get them for me. They had a commercial account with Tirerack and could actually get them a little cheaper than I could. I had no problem getting these tires home and everything went well crossing the border.

I paid $950 in total, including Maine Tax for the 235-65-17 tire/wheel set. Tirerack had OE size 255-55-18 wheel sets but the selection was far less and the cost was significantly more. Narrower tires work better in snow anyway. Tirerack had 2 size packages....18" and 17" So I opted for the 17's since this allowed me to get the Michelins which I had for winter tires on my Forester with great luck for a number of years. I checked the diameter and they were virtually identical.... 65-17 vs 55-18, so the speedometer should be unaffected.

I thought I might install them myself, but after removing the lug nut caps, and trying to see how tight they were, I realized I was in for a struggle. I'm guessing they had been torqued on super tight. So I opted to go to an independant mechanic friend who always worked on my Forester. I was a little nervous that the bolt pattern wouldn't match on these new wheels. I had asked the dealer to try them out but they hadn't gotten an opportunity.

We got the old wheels off and started with the new ones. They fit on fine which was a relief. The new set of wheels had come with fancy, chrome, acorn style lug nuts since the nuts were visible I presume. Here's where we had a problem. The new lug nuts didn't seem to want to go on properly. My mechanic friend said they must be the wrong size and we should not use them. I was inclined to agree. So we used the old lug nuts which worked fine but just didn't look as good.

I came home and after some research, I discovered that the lug nuts were in fact the wrong size. 12mm 1.5 and it turns out this is a popular size but I actually needed 12mm 1.25. The difference has something to do with the thread angle I think.

Called Tirerack and the dealer in maine. Tirerack is sending the new ones to the dealer who is sending them to me. So for now I have the old ones on.

See the pics below. You can see that winter hasn't hit east coast Canada yet.

http://www3.islandtelecom.com/~myles/tribeca

One odd thing, I expected the TPMS warning to go off and it didn't....then I realised that the old tires were in the back of the Tribeca....However, even after I unloaded them, there was still no warning. Perhaps the warning light will come on with time or perhaps it only comes on when it receives a low tire press. warning.

And yes, I will re-check the torque on the tires after a few miles.
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