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Old 10-05-2000, 05:30 PM   #1
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Question Need info on NOT lowering, but improving...

I don't really want to lower my OB, as I have found the clearance to come in handy in the snow. I would like to tighten things up some, though. I got the whiteline swaybar, but I wonder....is there a replacement strut that won't affect ride height? How about the KYB GR2? I know the AGX will lower the car, but is the same true of the non-adjustable ones?
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Old 10-05-2000, 08:33 PM   #2
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The GR2 is a very good replacement for the OE struts and it's also measureably stiffer than them.

For serious use go with the GR2 as it'll probably last longer and it has a lifetime warranty.
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Old 10-05-2000, 10:09 PM   #3
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't the springs determine the ride height?

I haven't heard of anyone trying the GR2 on an OB. There may be a chance of them being overdamped for the OE springs.

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Old 10-06-2000, 05:56 AM   #4
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Good question. I am learning all this stuff basically from tuner sites. I suppose you are right about that. Clearly there is no stiff spring replacement for the OB that won't affect height. Am I then SOL in looking to stiffen things a little with a strut replacement? the SPD site seems to imply that a benefit can be gained from just replacing struts, but that more benefit comes from replacing both.
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Old 02-12-2002, 01:17 AM   #5
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Old 02-12-2002, 10:06 AM   #6
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You can certainly benefit from just replacing shocks and retaining stock springs. Many, many competitive Solo2 Stock cars are setup this way, because springs must be kept stock, but shocks are almost free. In fact, the benefit is sufficient that most people believe you don't stand a chance on OEM shocks.

I just installed Koni single-adjustable struts on my MR2, with stock springs, and it is like a different car now, although, to be fair, the rears were completely shot and the fronts weren't OE.

That said, an option you might look into is custom springs. They aren't really expensive, since they're just wound metal rod; the hard part is figuring out exactly what you want.
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Old 02-12-2002, 10:33 AM   #7
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Hey Lucien,

KYB AGXs are stock replacement struts. In other words they will not lower the car at all by themselves (trust me I had them up next to stockers). They are the exact same length in front and rear.

My FHI Ver 5 struts are shorter in the front and the same length in the rear as stock.

Bugbomb (Mike Moran) just installed my old AGXs on his RS with stock springs. He noted a wonderful difference in performance. Basically he is getting stock ride qaulity on the daily commute and a large boost in dampening for quick turns. His car isn't any lower then stock but it sure handles better then stock.

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Old 02-12-2002, 10:51 AM   #8
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I've got the GR2 struts on my Legacy, with an upgraded 18mm rear anti-sway bar. I really like the handling of the car. Right now I have stock springs.

I think the GR2's would be good for what you want in handling. The only real difference with the AGX's is that they have adjustable valving. That is the only difference. They will not lower your car or anything.

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Old 02-12-2002, 12:05 PM   #9
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Thanks Brad.....aI have pretty much decided to take the cash I was going to put into exhaust and do the AGX instead, based on Mike's feedback.

Hey everybody- please note this thread is from almost a year and a half ago and was just revived. I have since handed off the Outback to my wife and now have a GT.
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Old 02-12-2002, 12:07 PM   #10
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lucien2 - other than just the struts, have you also upgraded the rubber etc? That's one of the most important things when it comes to "feel". w/o affecting ride height, try some sportier tires, F&R STB's and 18-20mm rear swaybar. Couple those with the struts and you should be good to go w/o changing ride height.
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Old 02-12-2002, 01:29 PM   #11
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I have since handed off the Outback to my wife and now have a GT.
wooohoo! Congrats lucien!

Mebe you wouldn't mind a little drop like this:



-chrisC
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FYI i have STi v6 struts with Eibach ProKit Springs. A Whiteline adjustable rear swaybar (18-22) @ 20mm w/Whiteline endlinks and eurothane bushings. Also 17" p1's w/Firestone SZ50ep tires.

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Old 02-13-2002, 08:29 AM   #12
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silver- very nice indeed. If only Baltimore city Streets were ripple, pothole, and gaping chasm-free!

GTBGUY-
Ok ok look, this thread was about helping the handling of a BG5 Outback, but there was (and is) no aftermarket replacement strut for that car. I am doing very well putting the GT together thanks very much.
I have an 18mm swaybar with poly bushings, cusco front brace, RS 16x7 rims currently shod with KDW 215/50/16 tires, about to receive S-03 PPs @205/55/16.

this thread was dead and buried until rallysquirrel posted the link above.
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Old 02-13-2002, 09:36 AM   #13
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look at the date when this thread was posted
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