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Old 07-29-2006, 08:06 PM   #1
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I have a 2003 WRX and was wondering if anyone could give me or show me where i could find a set of detailed installation instructions for the coolingmist 150psi kit. I have searched for the last half hour and havent been able to find detailed instructions...i MAY be able to piece together some but was wondering if i could get them all in one page. Thanks a bunch in advance!
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Old 07-29-2006, 09:18 PM   #2
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I have a 2003 WRX and was wondering if anyone could give me or show me where i could find a set of detailed installation instructions for the coolingmist 150psi kit. I have searched for the last half hour and havent been able to find detailed instructions...i MAY be able to piece together some but was wondering if i could get them all in one page. Thanks a bunch in advance!

Our diagram is here:

http://www.coolingmist.com/instructions.aspx

it also has universal instructions. These are not going to give you step by step scoobie instructions, but they will tell you how to wire it. All that is left after the diagram is mounting the components. Here is a photo install of the same kit.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1004425

Thanks again.

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Old 07-30-2006, 08:59 AM   #3
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It's pretty easy with the generic instructions that come with the kit. It is not Suby specific, but it doesnt have to be.
FYI, I am running the SPT intake, I placed the pump upside down right before the pax headlight using the bolt hole in the fender wall where the intake went through the fire wall. I then went down to autozone and got the tank that would fit right under the intake, I can still remove the top and do not need a funnel to fill it up.
The above setup makes the wiring and water tubing runs a lot shorter, also there is no water related problems in the interior of my car, if I have a leak it will be in the engine compartment.
Just use their diagram, it will all make sense. When wiring the relay and solenoid do not pay attention to wire colors anly the numbers on the back of the relay and solenoid.
With the commander controller it is even easier, took me 15 minutes to swith from the solenoid/ relay to just the controller.
If you are running a AM intake let me know, I would be more than willing to post a pic of my setup for you.

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Old 07-30-2006, 12:15 PM   #4
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i appreciate it. it will probably be going on in a week. i need to get that installed as well as many other parts...and then the tune! it should be alright for now without the tune correct?
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:17 PM   #5
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Run nothing but h2o. While I was running just water I could see a definite decrease on the EGT's about 1/3 cooler than what I had previously seen under boost.
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Old 07-31-2006, 11:54 AM   #6
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.... I then went down to autozone and got the tank that would fit right under the intake, I can still remove the top and do not need a funnel to fill it up.
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Autozone carries a tank that fits under the intake? Talk to me!
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:15 PM   #7
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Autozone and Advance carry a tank that, if you have an AM intake and a heatshield you can make it fit. I will post a pic of my setup later. FYI, i mounted the pump upside down to keep th flow lower than the tank.


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Old 07-31-2006, 02:51 PM   #8
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Autozone and Advance carry a tank that, if you have an AM intake and a heatshield you can make it fit. I will post a pic of my setup later. FYI, i mounted the pump upside down to keep th flow lower than the tank.
That'd be great! Thanks!
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Old 07-31-2006, 09:17 PM   #9
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Old 08-03-2006, 02:09 PM   #10
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Nice! Thanks for the pics!
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:16 PM   #11
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Run nothing but h2o. While I was running just water I could see a definite decrease on the EGT's about 1/3 cooler than what I had previously seen under boost.
See, with just water, Im not seeing much decrease in EGT temp. Its down, but not that much. Maybe 20-40* C. Ill have to get a closer look at it to really be sure though. Can you hear your pump when it activates? I cant hear anything and Im probably being paranoid but I want to be sure.
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Old 08-03-2006, 04:12 PM   #12
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See, with just water, Im not seeing much decrease in EGT temp. Its down, but not that much. Maybe 20-40* C. Ill have to get a closer look at it to really be sure though. Can you hear your pump when it activates? I cant hear anything and Im probably being paranoid but I want to be sure.

let's say, just for giggles, you were running 800F/425C. A reduction of 20-40C would be in the range of 760F/405C - 725F/385C.
So you're dropping 40-75*F in EGT.

We ARE talking about WOT right? You're not expecting to see EGT drops during off-boost scenarios, right?
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Old 08-03-2006, 04:41 PM   #13
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Yes, this is under WOT. I havnt been able to drive it today, but I think Ive been seeing the kind of reduction that I stated above. It is, however, no where near 1/3 the temp like you said, so I was just curious to see if my setup is working correctly.

Im going on a long drive so I can check it out along the way to see if I am getting any drop in temp.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:37 PM   #14
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You may see different numbers in the reduction of EGT's depending on your other mods.
At WOT is where you should notice the EGT's going down, actually they should start going down wherever you have the minimum injection setting at, but they are mostly noticeable at WOT.

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let's say, just for giggles, you were running 800F/425C. A reduction of 20-40C would be in the range of 760F/405C - 725F/385C.
So you're dropping 40-75*F in EGT.

We ARE talking about WOT right? You're not expecting to see EGT drops during off-boost scenarios, right?
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Old 08-04-2006, 07:55 AM   #15
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Yes, this is under WOT. I havnt been able to drive it today, but I think Ive been seeing the kind of reduction that I stated above. It is, however, no where near 1/3 the temp like you said, so I was just curious to see if my setup is working correctly.

Im going on a long drive so I can check it out along the way to see if I am getting any drop in temp.
Actually, just for clarification, it wasn't me who was speaking of a 1/3 reduction, it was dibblejr. I don't have a alk injection kit installed yet. I just went through some math as a bit of review for us all.

Where do you have your activation threshold set? Like dibble stated, you should start seeing some improvement any time you're injecting water.
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:30 PM   #16
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i noticed great reductions in EGT's at boost immediately. To ensure your system is working this is what I did:

1.) Disconnect the hose from the injection nozzle
2.) Block off the injection nozzle with a rubber cap
3.) Lengthen the hose from the injection nozzle so that it will rech to the windshield washer blades.
4.) Use a zip tie to hold the hose in place
5.) Test drive your car, wherever you have set your controller you should see the spray. Adjust your controller to your set points.

NOTE: You should set your levels all the way up 10/10/10 until you get tuned.

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Actually, just for clarification, it wasn't me who was speaking of a 1/3 reduction, it was dibblejr. I don't have a alk injection kit installed yet. I just went through some math as a bit of review for us all.

Where do you have your activation threshold set? Like dibble stated, you should start seeing some improvement any time you're injecting water.
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:51 PM   #17
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i noticed great reductions in EGT's at boost immediately. To ensure your system is working this is what I did:

1.) Disconnect the hose from the injection nozzle
2.) Block off the injection nozzle with a rubber cap
3.) Lengthen the hose from the injection nozzle so that it will rech to the windshield washer blades.
4.) Use a zip tie to hold the hose in place
5.) Test drive your car, wherever you have set your controller you should see the spray. Adjust your controller to your set points.

NOTE: You should set your levels all the way up 10/10/10 until you get tuned.

Jay-R
Awesome advice, thanks a lot.

Now that I know the pump and everything is working fine, Im still not seeing a decrease in EGTs. For example, at WOT in 4th gear at 90mph I was seeing 840*C and with the water turned on, the same thing. Im concerned becasue now I know its working but if Im supposed to see decreased EGTs and Im not then there is a problem somewhere else.

Where the Injector holder meets the IC, I sealed off with some epoxy to make sure it wasnt leaking, so any advice would be great.

Edit: Been talking to Coolingmist and John seems to think my injector(M3) may be to small for my application.

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Old 08-08-2006, 10:07 PM   #18
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Yeah I just purchased the larger injector because I could never max out ( get hezitation) with the first injector.
I havent installed it yet since I am also adding my coilovers and have some tweeking to do there as well.
I am concerned that yor test 90 mph 4th gear is really low but your EGT is high at only 90 MPH in 4th gear. My EGT's at that gear is only around 670 c.
You should do the test in 3rd gear, if you have data log capabilities and a laptop to connect to your car is the best.
Hold your RPM's in 3rd to around 2600-3000 then floor it, you should be able to get well over 100 mph in 3rd, the first pull do with your Alky kit set at 10/10/10 record your EGT at peak right before you shift.
Run your car at normal speeds for a while to let everything cool down.
The 2nd run do the same thing but turn your start setting to 1-8 you should see a diff at WOT this time.
What mods do you have? I am at Stage 4 (true) no (minimal) airflow restrictions and no exhaust restrictions, my only exhaust restrictions are after the DP so they dont count against anything.

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Awesome advice, thanks a lot.

Now that I know the pump and everything is working fine, Im still not seeing a decrease in EGTs. For example, at WOT in 4th gear at 90mph I was seeing 840*C and with the water turned on, the same thing. Im concerned becasue now I know its working but if Im supposed to see decreased EGTs and Im not then there is a problem somewhere else.

Where the Injector holder meets the IC, I sealed off with some epoxy to make sure it wasnt leaking, so any advice would be great.

Edit: Been talking to Coolingmist and John seems to think my injector(M3) may be to small for my application.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:48 AM   #19
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PE1820. Helix 660cc inj, TurboXS TMIC, coated and ported manifolds, coated perrin uppipe, TurboXS stealth back with high-flow cat, prodrive oval tip, perrin pulley, perrin inlet hose, APS pod intake. Its a stage 1 Coolingmist kit so I can only set when it sprays and thats at 10psi.
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Old 08-09-2006, 06:01 AM   #20
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Im not sure what to tell you at this point. With your mods you should see more reduction in EGT's.
With water only you should see a drop in EGT's at the 10 PSI no matter what speed, rpm ect.
During your test you should have had spray from 10 PSI on, does that check out?
Even if your injector was too small you should see EGT's drop. Anytime you put water into the cyliders it cools off the internal temp.
Where do you have your EGT guage sensor pluged into?
What EGT gugae are you running?
Taking the ride fishing today so will be out of the loop until late tonight.
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Yep, the spray starts at 10psi.

Its a Greddy gauge tapped into the Passenger side manifold. Im stumped as to what it could be, unless its a clogged injector. I disconnected the hose and it sprays when I hit 10psi, so I know its working. My M5 will be here shortly so I shall see how it goes.
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Yep, the spray starts at 10psi.

Its a Greddy gauge tapped into the Passenger side manifold. Im stumped as to what it could be, unless its a clogged injector. I disconnected the hose and it sprays when I hit 10psi, so I know its working. My M5 will be here shortly so I shall see how it goes.

Do you have your injector spraying towards the TMIC or the MAF?
I have mine spraying directly towards the MAF.
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Well its tapped in the IC just before the throttle body. With the way the IC endtank is angled at this point, the injector is aimed at the throttle body.
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