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Old 07-31-2006, 03:41 PM   #1
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Default Stay at Cobb stage 2 or get protuned.

Yes, it's been asked before. Yea, I searched. Did I find anything? Maybe..

05 WRX, tbe + uppipe.

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Protune + K&N typhoon.

I want the intake for the sound. Heard/researched that it's not bad for the car, being the only intake thats "safe" for the WRX.

I'm leaning towards the protune + intake route, but I need to be pushed completely. Suggestions, anyone? Stay at OTS stg 2 or go with a protune/intake?
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:04 PM   #2
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or you could get the Cobb SF intake, which was made by Cobb to be safe for the WRX with an AP running stg2
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Old 07-31-2006, 08:42 PM   #3
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The K&N isn't proved to be safe on a WRX. STi...yes, WRX....yes according to K&N and K&N only, not independant testing.
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Old 07-31-2006, 08:53 PM   #4
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Protune is worth it... but since your just a stage 2 id save a little more then do the vf34 upgrade then pro tune it.. since your almost there. vf34 or 39, sti injectors and fuel pump. You will get tired of just a basic stage 2 sooner then you think and then you will upgrade more..so in the long run you save 350 bucks if you wait a little more and have it tuned for the turbo, just deal with how it is now for a little longer.... .

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Old 07-31-2006, 10:28 PM   #5
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get the protune, you won't regret it. Also add a TMIC to your list prior to tuning.
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Old 08-01-2006, 01:49 AM   #6
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The K&N isn't proved to be safe on a WRX. STi...yes, WRX....yes according to K&N and K&N only, not independant testing.
What do you say about the Cobb SF intake?

And I was only saying because my tuner (Dan@harman) said that they only sell the K&N typhoon intake for a reason...that it's 100% safe for our cars. Heck, even a Subaru dealer out in the valley recommended me to get the intake and offered to install it.

I really don't care which intake as long as I can get one on my car, with the protune of course. But now after doing the research, I seem a bit lost...too many people saying too many different things...

Cobb SF? K&N typhoon? hmm..
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Old 08-01-2006, 07:40 AM   #7
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Cobb says their SF intake is safe for their stuff, so it will be fine. If you get a protune, you can use ANY intake for that matter as the tuning will take care of the intake craziness.
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Old 08-01-2006, 02:42 PM   #8
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Protune is worth it... but since your just a stage 2 id save a little more then do the vf34 upgrade then pro tune it.. since your almost there. vf34 or 39, sti injectors and fuel pump. You will get tired of just a basic stage 2 sooner then you think and then you will upgrade more..so in the long run you save 350 bucks if you wait a little more and have it tuned for the turbo, just deal with how it is now for a little longer.... .

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I was thinking about waiting till I mod the car a bit more for a protune...but when I think about it I know that i'm going to stop at a protuned stage 2 (not because of my desire, but due to my need in reliability...going to be commuting a lot for the next couple of years.) So that's why I decided to go with the protune over the OTS in the first place. I just wanted to know if overall it's a better idea, reliability wise, than an OTS map, which so far, I'm finding that it is.

Only thing i'm debating now is getting my gauges (ex. temp, oil press, oil temp) before doing the protune, in which case the protune will have to wait a little while longer.
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Old 08-01-2006, 02:42 PM   #9
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Oh yea by the way thanks for all the straight forward answers
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Honestly I don't think you have enough mods to warrant a protune. I got one but I have way more stuff than you do. The OTS map should be just fine for what you have.
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Old 08-01-2006, 06:01 PM   #11
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Honestly I don't think you have enough mods to warrant a protune. I got one but I have way more stuff than you do. The OTS map should be just fine for what you have.
A good ProTune (even on a lightly-modded Stage 2 car) will yield improved driveability and power over the OTS map.

Getting what you paid for is never a bad thing, IMO.
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:13 PM   #12
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Honestly I don't think you have enough mods to warrant a protune. I got one but I have way more stuff than you do. The OTS map should be just fine for what you have.

Would there be a problem in, say, leaving my car with Cobb's OTS stg. 2 map? I know that a protuned stage 2 is much better, just wondering if people have stayed with OTS maps for long periods of time without problems, since most people get protuned asap.

Debating between dumping more money in my car or putting a down payment for a DL650
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Old 08-03-2006, 04:18 AM   #13
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I ran my Cobb Stage 2 OTS map for about three years with no probs. Got it Protuned a month ago and that was one of the best mods I've invested money in ($320). The driveability that people report is felt immediately and the pull through mid-range is noticeably stronger and useable for everyday driving. Don't know how long it'll keep me happy before I go with something else, but it sure is fun these days
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Old 08-06-2006, 06:55 PM   #14
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Is StreetTuner Software from Cobb the same thing as ProTuning?
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:04 PM   #15
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we see an average of 12-15 whp on 2.0L WRX motors via Protuning at Stage 2 vs. Cobb's stage 2 mapping. No det, good mileage, and smoooooooth as can be for power delivery

If Dan is the one tuning your car I would take his advise on the intakes. He'll be able to map in the intake in a jiff. The ones I would stay away from are Injen CAI and short ram.

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forgot to mention, Street Tuner allows the users to change quite a few users constraints, but ProTuner software has parameters that can be changed.

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Old 08-06-2006, 08:29 PM   #17
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You might want to mod stg 2 to its bitter limit then protune. Do all the little stuff that way you get the most out of the protune...like no cats, P&P turbo maybe even coated, coated/wrapped down/up, intake, h2o i/c mister, etc etc, then maybe even go with meth on top of that...

I really like the td04 so I'm gonna stick with it for a bit till I'm bored with it. Then when the td04 goes I'll move up to b16g or 18g....
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