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Old 08-01-2006, 04:06 PM   #1
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Just finished installing my Coolingmist Stage 1 alcohol injection kit. Let me say that Coolingmist has top notch service and parts. Dave was there to help with any questions I had. The install was super easy and the directions are simple to follow.

I filled it with water to check for any leaks and I took it for a spin. It seems to be working fine. When I returned, the water level was lower than when I started so I assumed everything was working fine. No leaks from what I can tell but I will get a closer look when I get a chance. Its about 95 degrees here today and the car still felt strong. I didnt notice any power gain/loss the car just felt as strong as it usually does, expecially when I used to run it in the cooler night time temp. Im not going to run it till I get tuned but this was just a test.

I thought that I would be able to hear the pump operating but honestly I couldnt heaer a thing. I have it mounted in the driver's side fender so I guess the engine noise won the battle.

All in all, easy install that just takes some time. Great customer service and great parts. Ill post pics when I can.
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:22 PM   #2
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As promised, here are some pics:

Overview of the engine bay


New washer tank location


Mounting of the relay and old washer tank/new alcohol tank


Pump location, inside the driver's fender behind the battery


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Switch that can turn the pump on and off so I can switch maps if I need to
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:53 PM   #3
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Nice! I just got done installing my stage 2 kit this last weekend. Going to get tuned for it a week from today
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:57 PM   #4
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It might not be a good idea(probably isn't) to put your tank there. Does the kit turn on with a pressure switch? I say this often, but once ya get tuned and start running injection, it might be a good idea to take out the on/off switch for your system. This is cause if you go to hard throttle on a tuned map without injection, something bad might happen. Having the system turn on with the ignition is safer.

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Old 08-01-2006, 05:59 PM   #5
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Im not to worried about it. The tank does not get that hot. Especially since my uppipe and turbo are coated and my downpipe is wrapped, it really helps. Its not much more heat than in the stock location so it should be ok.
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:41 AM   #6
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It might not be a good idea(probably isn't) to put your tank there. Does the kit turn on with a pressure switch? I say this often, but once ya get tuned and start running injection, it might be a good idea to take out the on/off switch for your system. This is cause if you go to hard throttle on a tuned map without injection, something bad might happen. Having the system turn on with the ignition is safer.

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The injection turns on with the ignition and is triggered by a pressure switch. The reason the switch is there, is in case Im a far away from home and something happens or I run out of Meth. or something goes wrong, I can shut the system down and switch my map to my non-meth tune.
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Old 08-02-2006, 08:42 AM   #7
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Nice install. Regarding the location of the washer fluid tank; it would seem to be a farily simple task to install some form of heat shielding on the bottom of that tank as well. I know you stated that you were coated and wrapped and had the heat shield, etc, etc.....I'm just pointing out that Hippy's concern could probably be easily addressed with the addition of something like dynamat on the lower side of that tank, assuming you wanted to.

Have you tuned or gotten tuned for it yet? How does it feel? What set up are you running?
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:33 AM   #8
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I havnt gotten tuned yet but I will at the end of August. Ive just been testing it to see if it works. Im being bparanoid because I remember reading a while back that the pump made some noticeable noise, and I dont hear anything. Is there a way to tell if its working? As I stated in the first post, the water level has dropped since I filled it so I assume its working, I just want to make sure it is working properly.

Its a basic Coolinmist Stage 1. A very simple design that is affordable and easy to install. Couldnt ask for a better product for the price.
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Old 08-04-2006, 08:23 PM   #9
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PolarisSnT

I bought a Coolingmist Stage 1 kit awhile back and it looks like both of us got the older model silver pump. Good to know the pump is relatively silent and the water injection has taken care of most of the heat soak problem common to the standard WRX on hot days with the smaller stock intercooler. Gonna try and install the kit within the next couple of days. What year WRX to you have? It looks like the basic 2002-04 layout. I have a 2002 WRX wagon and I'm going to run just water till I get it tuned too. Not planning any heavy racing or hauling arse around town either until after she's been dyno tuned and tested for leaks.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:56 PM   #10
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I don't get why people run water and think that's better then running a certain percent alc while untuned. Maybe it's cause they don't wanna spend money on something where they will probably be losing power. Course, they'd probably be better off powerise by running a higher percent of alc(while untuned). Either way, they could turn the boost up a bit as to not lose a lot of power.........

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I'm running water until Tuesday (when I get tuned)... basically to make sure that my kit is working fine (so I can keep checking the level in the tank to ensure it's going down, etc.) I've got the good stuff ready to go here and it'll be going in in a few days.
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Old 08-07-2006, 12:43 AM   #12
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I don't get why people run water and think that's better then running a certain percent alc while untuned. Maybe it's cause they don't wanna spend money on something where they will probably be losing power. Course, they'd probably be better off powerise by running a higher percent of alc(while untuned). Either way, they could turn the boost up a bit as to not lose a lot of power.........

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I dont think its better but as stated in the post above this one :
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I'm running water until Tuesday (when I get tuned)... basically to make sure that my kit is working fine (so I can keep checking the level in the tank to ensure it's going down, etc.) I've got the good stuff ready to go here and it'll be going in in a few days.
Its just to make sure its working properly. Im not running it all the time. All I did was fill it with some water to make sure everything was good to go.

As for my setup. Its an 04 WRX with a PE1820 turbo, Helix 660cc inj, TurboXS TMIC.
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:52 PM   #13
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Post 18... Anywhere in the engine compartment(especially above the downpipe and next to the turbo) is probably a really bad place for a tank that is feeding a shurflo pump.

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Old 08-07-2006, 07:19 PM   #14
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Post 18... Anywhere in the engine compartment(especially above the downpipe and next to the turbo) is probably a really bad place for a tank that is feeding a shurflo pump.

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So the stock windshield washer pump is a shurflo pump? What happens to the pump if the windshield washer fluid is too hot?

Dave at Coolingmist has never warned about the use of liquid being too hot when using their pumps.
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:36 PM   #15
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So the stock windshield washer pump is a shurflo pump? What happens to the pump if the windshield washer fluid is too hot?

Dave at Coolingmist has never warned about the use of liquid being too hot when using their pumps.
Dave doesn't warn people about all of the problems they can encounter with his kit because he doesn't know all the things that can go wrong. No one does. People who assume that he would warn them about everything that might go wrong, might end up regretting that assumption.

You will most likely(just a guess) never hear of an engine having to be rebuilt because the cars windsheild washer pump failed. Of course, windsheild washer pumps are designed to function inside an engine compartment. The shurflo pumps everyone uses for water injection aren't even made for cars. They're just pumps. Maybe coolings pump is special? I mean he did say that it was made for water injection. Anywhoo, just trying to help.

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Ill fill up my tank and take a temp reading of the water on this inside. I cant see how its going to exceed 180 degrees F. Will be interesting to see how how it actually gets.
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:01 PM   #17
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Don't take this the wrong way, but the spot you picked to put your tank is where I'd put a tank if I wanted to heat it up. I dunno why you're so against moving the tank. Either way, why don't you call cooling and ask him what he thinks?

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Old 08-08-2006, 01:15 AM   #18
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Just to be clear. You realize that the tank above my turbo is for my windshield washer fluid, correct?

Well the way I see it is, its only my washer fluid. Its not used all the time and its not going to cause me any problems if something goes wrong. If it breaks, it breaks and Ill get a new pump and move the location but for now I like it and I dont see it as a problem.

The use of the old stock washer bottle tank for the Meth has been discussed and used by a few members without problem.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:39 AM   #19
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Haha, I didn't realize that. The stock resiviour is used by a lot of people. Not that I think it's a good idea after looking at shurflo pump specs, but it's definately better then above the turbo. Sorry about the confusion. I shoulda realized with the pump not being in the stock tank, but I was busy lookin at the tank above the turbo. eh,

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Old 08-08-2006, 01:44 PM   #20
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Its ok I was just getting confused as to why it was such a big deal to have my windshield washer fluid up there.

As for the shurflo specs, I cant see the water in the stock resevoir getting to be 180 degrees farenheit. Like I said, when its all done and filled up Ill try to get a temp reading of the water.
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:07 PM   #21
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The hot water will clean your windshield better.

Nice install, let us know how it goes after the tune. (though I would still consider further shielding or moving the washer tank).
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:16 PM   #22
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It's better then above the turbo, but I can see the water temp getting that hot anywhere in the engine compartment. People have reported intake air temps of over 200F in their engine compartment(with short rams)..................

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I had the smc kit on my 02 wrx and was running 100% meth. If I got stuck in traffic in high heat 100F plus and I opened my window I could smell the the methanol vapors. If I was using 85/15 meth/water I don't think I would have had that problem. It really just depends on what you're planning on running mix wise imho. Meth has a much lower vapor point than even gas (I could be wrong there but I don't think so) so I was concerned that if I sat and idled long enough I could fill my engine bay with vaporized methanol which would be very very bad. Methanol evaporates at a much lower temperature, if it's evaporating it's not going to heat up very much (latent heat of vaporization comes into play) I would think that the pump will be your smallest concern.

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