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Old 08-01-2006, 11:43 PM   #1
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I'm getting bored and need a little more power... as much as I can get for $1500.

Basics (power mods currently on car):
-K&N box filter (no I don't like loud CAIs and the gains aren't that much anyway)
-Cobb pulley
-Cobb St. 1 cams
-MRT equal length headers, custom catback
-Cobb flywheel

It pulls strong to redline, decent power, yadda yadda... and I'm looking for about 20 more ponies and then I'll be satisfied for another year or so.

I wouldn't mind a DIY turbokit. I'm relatively adept working under the hood myself. I just don't want to get into PITA chain reaction of mods - turbokit, then slipping clutch, then replacing gearbox... and don't forget upgrading brakes again, cutting a hole in the hood for a scoop or getting a WRX hood painted to match the car... then there's the stress on the engine and future piston-swapping... and the engine management too...

I doubt there's a reputable local place to P&P my heads, and I can't afford any downtime more than 24 hours so...

...any ideas?

For the budget that I've set, I think the best thing I can do is to just swap out my box filter for a CAI, swap cams for Cobb stg 2, get a lighter hood than my elephant-spec steel TS wagon hood, get a set of light racing seats and call it quits. Not really my idea of "modding" though.
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Old 08-02-2006, 12:23 AM   #2
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35 Shot of nitrious. With stage 2 cams i would deff run a CAI, those things will increase the high RPM air need.
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Old 08-02-2006, 01:24 PM   #3
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CAI and PP6? Not sure if you've got some tuning/ECU work under the hood, but it would make the CAI perform, not to mention the cams. This combo, with the rest of the stuff on the car, could get you that 20 hp.
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:46 PM   #4
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Hmm... I'm very wary of nitrous. I doubt I'll ever use it on my car.

As for the CAI and PP6, that's something I'll have to consider.
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:07 PM   #5
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i know your looking for power but have you done the brake conversion yet or suspension components?

and there are considerable gains with the cobb intake, it's really not that loud under normal load.
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Old 08-02-2006, 04:32 PM   #6
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As for the CAI and PP6, that's something I'll have to consider.
I'm just waiting for the Cobb AP RS in fall, and then I'll be adding an intake. As it is by the next autox event I'll be DSP and it'll be Wagon Wars.
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Old 08-02-2006, 05:17 PM   #7
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I was gonna say cams, but you have those... so port and polished heads, this might get you another 20hp. Or get a block with higher-compression pistons, which is more than $1,500 but you might just be able to get some pistons and a balance and blueprint for that much. Maybe. Otherwise, you are about the limit of a stock motor without spending some real cash.
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:17 PM   #8
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I was gonna say cams, but you have those... so port and polished heads, this might get you another 20hp. Or get a block with higher-compression pistons, which is more than $1,500 but you might just be able to get some pistons and a balance and blueprint for that much. Maybe. Otherwise, you are about the limit of a stock motor without spending some real cash.
Dude, he's got the cams, but no tuning and no intake. He could get 20 just by tuning for those cams. And whatever he falls short he can tune out of a CAI. And that'll come in well short of the 1500 bones he's lookin' to spend.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:20 AM   #9
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I'd do some head work, some pistons.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:37 AM   #10
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I thought I saw he had tuning... my bad. Tuning will help especially for the cams. get an intake as well. Light turbo would be good too. You could get a stock WRX setup and run wastegate boost. But that will more or less ruin the motor as far as retaining any sort of stock reliablity (I will get flamed for that comment) for 1500 I bet you could get an EJ20 and all the turbo bits. I think you will need the WRX subframe too or notch the stock subframe. And with the cams you already have, with boost you will make more up top and have more torque. I think that would be cool.
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:37 AM   #11
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doubledribble - ho ho, don't get me started on suspension... i think i might have everything there is, minus GT-spec/Cusco subframe braces and STi rear links/arms. I have a set of winter tires on 15" rims that I'm going to burn off this winter, so that makes larger brake rotors off-limits for now. I simply upgraded the pads for now - SS lines, Motul DOT 5.1 fluid and Perrin cyl brace are being shipped at the moment.

FalconRS - Yikes, yet another wagon to add to my kill list! Abe in the Outback wagon is clawing at my heels as it is. He's been consistently behind me by LESS than half a second in almost every event!

hatchbuilder - good suggestion on the turbo. I was very seriously considering it a few months ago, but decided that if I were to go turbo, I'd do it fully - either swap out the engine or get a proven kit like AVO and beef up the rest of the car with an STi shortblock, custom tuning, PPG gears 1&2, upgraded clutch, FMIC and Kaminari hood (I'm not too fond of scoops). That's a late 2007 to mid 2008 project though.

Thanks for the info guys. I still haven't decided, but keep the suggestions coming if you have any other ideas. I'm leaning towards just a CAI and PP6 for now...
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:05 AM   #12
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If you havent read this, may I recommend it. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1022154

It sounds like a COBB CAI and tuning would be the next logical step. A used COBB is about $100, a new one $275. PP6 is $250 - $400 used and $435 new. You can probably have a port and polish and valve job done for $1000 if you shop around though it maybe worth the extra $500 to have Crucial do it up right.

At this point you are pushing the NA envelope where a DIY turbo swap starts to make more sense, assuming you can live with the downtime.

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