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Old 08-03-2006, 05:17 PM   #1
aznkyuusai
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Default 1st and 2nd gear......on the 06

is it jus me or does it seem like shifting from 1st to 2nd isn't really smooth... compared to 2nd to 3rd and soforth....

jus wondering
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:19 PM   #2
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Oh you'll get used to it. I tried out an 06 at Fitzz and felt the same way as my 02 only mine is shortened.


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Old 08-03-2006, 05:39 PM   #3
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i agree. that's the same thing i thought too but after a while i got used to it. not as smooth as what i was used to but now it all feels the same to me.
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:22 PM   #4
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I had the same problem on my RS. Its the huge difference in rpms between 1st and 2nd. Putting in a lightweight flywheel cured the problem for me.
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:29 PM   #5
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I hate my 1-2 shift. I rarely ever shift my wrx hard. I feel like I'm damaging something. I like playing in 3rd because it seems the longest powerful gear.
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:51 PM   #6
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Yeah, I tend to either barely use 1st and shift to 2nd early or slowly run 1st up to about 4 or 5k and then gently shift to 2nd. You'll get used to it and be able to shift more smoothly. A lot of it is timing and using the clutch properly.
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:53 PM   #7
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the first/second shift is like that for most cars i'd imagine.
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:30 PM   #8
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The only cure is to shift between 4 - 5k. As said above, you have to be gentile with the shift as well.

When I need to shift at lower RPMs, I let the clutch out a little slower. It seems to help, but I'm not sure how it is on the clutch.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:56 PM   #9
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alright thanks for the info i'll keep it in mind lol but yea i didn't mind it as much as i drove to pick up my mom...i guess i'm getting use to it
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:56 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by MeLLoWd_WRX
I hate my 1-2 shift. I rarely ever shift my wrx hard. I feel like I'm damaging something. I like playing in 3rd because it seems the longest powerful gear.
Ditto, and 4th, except you're well beyond legal limits.
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:34 AM   #11
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I dont know.. I beg to differ.. I came from an 01 civic 5spd that had a stick that moved like a wet noodle. The wrx, although strangely hard, feels stronger and more in touch with the car... thats my 02 cents.


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Old 08-04-2006, 01:38 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by aznkyuusai
i didn't mind it as much as i drove to pick up my mom...
my mom always lets me know when I'm shifting badly
coz she'll grab the passenger handle and freak out and say slow down or don't turn so hard even when I'm going like 15mph.
I'm a racer, not a thinker!
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:54 AM   #13
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It took me a while to perfect the 1-2 shift but now I don't even have to think about it(unless my AC is turned on, for some reason ) anymore. I, like some others here shift the 1-2 at high 4000rpm's and then slllliiiiiiip it into gear. You'll figure it out in time.
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Old 08-04-2006, 02:53 AM   #14
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i never seem to see a problem here. mabye because i learned on a subie?
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Old 08-04-2006, 03:08 AM   #15
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1st and 2nd are deffinently a little fluffy. Does anyone have a short shift? and if so does it help correct this at all?

I noticed with A/C on the my 03 WRX drives like pure ass unless i'm cruising highway.
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:27 AM   #16
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Ha yeah 1st to 2nd does suck, I still shift it hard. When I drive normally its usually not noticable but if I get on it, it gets jerky

I totally agree with the A/C shifting. I have to really wind the gears up to make smoother shifts. The RPM's drop prob 2x as fast inbetween shifts with it on due to the excess load, just gotta get used to it....or do like me and rarly run the A/C!
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:34 AM   #17
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This is the first car I had ever had with fly-by-wire throttle. The throttle reponse always seems to lag behind what my right foot is doing. On the other had, being a hydraulic clutch means that the clutch is doing exactly what my left foot is doing. I think that's where my shifting issues are.

lag != no lag

Also, in second, if I give it WOT, and rev from 3k all the way to 6k, there's a little stumble at around 4500rpm... Stock car, 5500 miles, nothing added except the armrest extension and Rally Armor flaps. That 4500rpm seems to be about where I shift from 1-2 and 2-3 when I am getting on the freeway (Unless there's some jerk who wants to cut over on me, then I MOVE a little faster...) and the 1-2 shift always feels a bit jerky. I have been driving stick for 15 years. I took my driver's test in a 5-speed '87 Maxima. I have never owned an automatic. I think that I know what I am doing with a stick shift. Heck, my '87 Maxima had the stock clutch at 190k miles, my '87 CRX Si had the stock clutch at 210k miles, my '91 Miata has the stock clutch at 187k miles and my 2000 Tacoma V-6 has the stock clutch at 110k miles (And we tow with it and carry very heavy loads often). I just had to give my resume as to why I think that the setup in the WRX is frustrating.

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Old 08-04-2006, 10:03 AM   #18
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Can't speak for '06's, but I think it's a general thing w/ Scooby transmissions. I usually take a lot longer on that first shift... clutch all the way down for about half a second, pull it into neutral, pull it into second, clutch out as smooth as possible.

Then again, I learned manual on a '69 GTO. "Stalling" in that car was basically a burnout. Maybe I'm just paranoid
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:57 AM   #19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lanczakb
1st and 2nd are deffinently a little fluffy. Does anyone have a short shift? and if so does it help correct this at all?

I noticed with A/C on the my 03 WRX drives like pure ass unless i'm cruising highway.
Mine came with the short shifter. It also came with the original, very quick clutch system. That was "improved" later by Subaru to slow down the rate of transmission failures in the USA. At that time I also had a 300zx. I could drive one and then the other for comparison.

It took a little time to adjust to all of the different "feels" of the wrx. The major one was the extremely short (relative to the Z) throw. Another was the quietness, which interfered with the "feel" of rpm and clutch action.

First gear can be a reflex testing, short duration event. 2nd doesn't last long either. Remember that a good magazine driver got IIRC 5.9 or 5.8 seconds for the 0 - 60 of the first US model of the WRX. However, it needed a few handling and torque mods to enhance the "drivability" factor through the hills. I stopped commuting about the time I bought the car.

I drove an 03 RS and the shifting felt like I was stirring oatmeal. I drove an 05 5mt Legacy GT, but I would opt for a short shifter on that. The clutch was very smooth, and the car was pretty quick in the hills. But my wrx is a bit more potent than it was when it was stock.

Even though the AC cuts of at WOT, it is a bit of a drag under lesser demands. I generally skip the AC and the cruise control. I don't need them.

I do need IC misting and 95 octane though.
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