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Old 08-05-2006, 09:04 PM   #1
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I've been having problems starting my car lately, and it's become worse over time. The battery is good (optima red top, less than a year old, all electronics will work without dimming even with the car not running), but when I go to start it, it clicks once when I turn the key forward. If the car's been sitting more than a couple of hours, I have to repeatedly turn the key to start until the starter finally kicks over and turns the motor over. Motor starts smooth when it actually starts. If the car just sits 20 or 30 minutes, I have no problem starting it (as of yet...knock on wood cause I'm at work ). One of my friends had a simular problem with his Ford and says he replaced the starter cylinoid and it cured the problem.

Anyone know how easy this is to do on a NA Subaru? Where is it? My partner said most are mounted to the starter, but some smaller cars he's worked on have them up in the engine bay. Any ideas? Please don't tell me this is a dealership job
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Old 08-05-2006, 09:14 PM   #2
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Dude... I can sell you a starter for $18 shipped.... thats 10 plus 8 to cover a flat rate shipping box. I'll be going up to my apartment this coming Tuesday. That's as easy as... removing one simple plug, one nut, and two 14mm bolts.
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Old 08-05-2006, 09:25 PM   #3
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Dude... I can sell you a starter for $18 shipped.... thats 10 plus 8 to cover a flat rate shipping box. I'll be going up to my apartment this coming Tuesday. That's as easy as... removing one simple plug, one nut, and two 14mm bolts.
for a manual or automatic trans?

My partner and I went out and looked at it. He felt the started while I tried to start it and it's definately the starter. I just bought a new mountain bike, and I need to make a drive into Ohio to get a set of heads and a shortblock to build a motor...not to mention the new header, gasket kit and water pump I need for it at minimum...this isn't an expense I had wanted to encounter right now.
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Old 08-06-2006, 02:31 AM   #4
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$18 is a hell of a deal on a starter and should suit your needs just fine, assuming it fits based on what tranny it is made for.

Junkyards are cheap, but not cheaper than that. I have worked in a parts store for 2 years now, and your looking at something around $100 for one from Advance Auto. Judging by the situation, used is your friend. If you can get it off the car, any advance auto can test it on the alternator bench that they have set up in the back, that way you can see exaclty what it is/isn't doing.

Hope that helps some.
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Old 08-06-2006, 02:36 AM   #5
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First check your connections though. When I replaced my clutch I didn't get the connectors tight and I got the same clicking problem. Got back there and tightened the positive connection and jingled the wire and it hasn't happened since.

Hope that helps.
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Old 08-06-2006, 06:37 PM   #6
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I didn't notice any difference comparing the 1.8 manual starter and the 2.2 auto starter, but the later is what I have. They both look exactly the same. Right now its taking up space in my apartment. I dont throw these things out with hopes that someone at some point could use it.
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Old 08-06-2006, 09:48 PM   #7
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gimme a day or two. I went out and just wiggled the positive wire some and it hasn't done it since. I washed, claybared, waxed, and detailed my interior and door jambs today, and after sitting all that time, it still started right up. We'll see in the morning.
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Old 08-06-2006, 09:52 PM   #8
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Maybe you shold have spent time detailing the battery connections & grounds.
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Old 08-07-2006, 12:59 PM   #9
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You've got to cound the teeth on the starter. On the 2000 models the autos had a different amount of teeth.
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:10 PM   #10
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Maybe you shold have spent time detailing the battery connections & grounds.
How 'bout I already did that before I washed, waxed, and detailed.
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:32 PM   #11
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You've got to cound the teeth on the starter. On the 2000 models the autos had a different amount of teeth.
Mine's a '97.
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:47 PM   #12
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Mine's a '97.
That does not necessarily mean that it's the correct one. I gave the example to show that they are different for that model year. That does'nt mean that it's the only year that they are different.
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