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Old 08-06-2006, 10:07 PM   #1
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Default How much should a 10x20 concrete patio cost to install?

Looking to put a 10x20 concrete patio on the back of my house and I called a few places and got estimates of anywhere from $2500 - $5000. That seems absolutely ridiculous to me. I figured maybe $1000 or $1500 tops. I would like it stamped and colored as well and I know that adds cost, but $2500 seems to be really high. Am I getting screwed?
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Old 08-06-2006, 10:11 PM   #2
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$5K might be on the high side, but it seems that concrete work is mucho expensivo these days. There was a recent thread here discussing the same and figures in the thousands were the norm. My aunt recently had her short driveway and sidewalk repoured and it cost her $3500-4000 IIRC.
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Old 08-06-2006, 10:12 PM   #3
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Old 08-06-2006, 10:15 PM   #4
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I was thinking that too, but a first time concrete pour usually doesnt look too great.
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Old 08-06-2006, 10:18 PM   #5
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I was thinking that too, but a first time concrete pour usually doesnt look too great.
And I am definately not a handy person. I wouldn't even know where to begin, have no tools, don't know what kind of concrete to get, or how to stamp or color it. DIY is out of the question in this scenario. I am doing many other cost saving things, but that is not one of them.

I might have to suck it up and drop $2300 on the damn thing. Son of a bitch.
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Old 08-07-2006, 12:41 AM   #6
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I have a concrete patio that's 25 x 25 with another area 8 x 12 behind my garage. I'd say those prices are in the ballpark, depending on how thick you want it.
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Old 08-07-2006, 12:47 AM   #7
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Seems right to me. My parents driveway was gonna be about $12,000 to do in concrete in 1989. My dad had an estimate a few years back and they said about $45,000. Concrete prices went WAYYYYYY up in the early 90's.
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Old 08-07-2006, 01:09 AM   #8
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From what I've heard, concrete flatwork is currently running around $5-7 per sqft @ 4-5" thick i think. The color and stamped design would add more I image. But $5000 for 200 sqft is ludicrous.
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Old 08-07-2006, 01:12 AM   #9
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pour it yourself...10x20 is not that big...get some 2x4's and some chicken wire...make the frame put the wire in it to keep concrete together and pour away
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Old 08-07-2006, 01:23 AM   #10
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Less than $1000. $4 per sq. foot. + color/stamp.
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Old 08-07-2006, 01:26 AM   #11
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Yeah, it may vary by area, but $12.5-$25 per sqft seems a little steep if you ask me.
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From what I've heard, concrete flatwork is currently running around $5-7 per sqft @ 4-5" thick i think. The color and stamped design would add more I image. But $5000 for 200 sqft is ludicrous.
I didn't notice the $5000 in the original post. The $2300 mentioned seemed like a good ballpark. $5000 is definitely a lot.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:08 AM   #13
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I built my own patio, about 10x20, not concrete but gravel and sand base with paving stones as the surface.

It took much time and sweat and cost me about $1k in materials.

So yeah, I think you're a cheap bastard.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:36 AM   #14
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And I am definately not a handy person. I wouldn't even know where to begin, have no tools, don't know what kind of concrete to get, or how to stamp or color it. DIY is out of the question in this scenario. I am doing many other cost saving things, but that is not one of them.
Then in all honesty, you really have no leg to stand on in thinking that those estimates are way too high, do you?

In reality concrete is easy - but time consuming and back breaking work. Just like most things, if you do the work yourself, you can probably do it for 1/2 of what it would cost to have someone else do it for you.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:49 AM   #15
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Then in all honesty, you really have no leg to stand on in thinking that those estimates are way too high, do you?

In reality concrete is easy - but time consuming and back breaking work. Just like most things, if you do the work yourself, you can probably do it for 1/2 of what it would cost to have someone else do it for you.
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Yeah, it may vary by area, but $12.5-$25 per sqft seems a little steep if you ask me.
going rate in my area for stamped is $15-17/sq ft. I got mine done two years ago for $13 I think. 420 sq ft patio + 30 ft sidewalk = $7200. My pad is 2.5 feet thick at the outside due to the hill and is as thin as 4 inches at the opposite corner.

Also....a large sized area will need a concrete pumper if you are using high-early strength concrete - there's not enough time to do it in wheelbarrows before it starts to set. Figure about $500 to get one in for the job.
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:22 AM   #17
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My old neighbor had a stamped concrete patio done. FTR, he is VERY handy, so the fact he left it to a pro says something. His was probably 12x25 or so and he paid $8K.
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our patio is the only thing we haven't done ourselves on the house. I considered it, but it was too big a job given the size. The conctractor had ten guys doing the work.....digging out the ground for formers, spreading the mix, applying the stamps, then dusting for color. No way we could have done all that, even with friends over to help. If it was a small pad, I'd have done it without paying someone. Guess it comes down to the size of the job.
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My neighbor just had a 12X20 patio poured on Saturday, exposed aggrigate. He did all the forms and prep work. He meet a guy through a friend who was willing to pour the concrete an acid wash it for $750.00 cash. This included the acid and the sealer, which alone cost $120. So, my advice is to find someone who is willing to do it on the side for beer money.

I had the guy come over to my back yard and quote me a price for my 13X15 patio off my basement. Stained and sealed $900 not too bad, but I have to set the forms and do all the prep work.
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Well we got a 10x21 colored and stamped concrete patio put in for $2300. Problem is he did a crappy job. Half of it is perfect. The right half stamping is all messed up and looks like crap. We also colored it like a sandish red color, and where the stamping is screwed up there is gray concrete on the surface. There's also 3 cracks already forming on one corner because he didn't put enough foundation down. I called him this morning but he wasn't around. Not sure how to handle this or if he has any liability/responsibility to fix it. fixing it would require ripping half of it all out and repouring it.

I hope it doesn't get ugly because something has to be done about it.
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Use pavers and DIY. It'll be rewarding if you do it yourself.

Or find some messicans that will beat $2500. But the 2k range doesn't sound all that far off. Especially with stampings ad color.
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Or find some messicans that will beat $2500. But the 2k range doesn't sound all that far off. Especially with stampings ad color.
It's already been done. Look one post up.
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Well we got a 10x21 colored and stamped concrete patio put in for $2300. Problem is he did a crappy job. Half of it is perfect. The right half stamping is all messed up and looks like crap. We also colored it like a sandish red color, and where the stamping is screwed up there is gray concrete on the surface. There's also 3 cracks already forming on one corner because he didn't put enough foundation down. I called him this morning but he wasn't around. Not sure how to handle this or if he has any liability/responsibility to fix it. fixing it would require ripping half of it all out and repouring it.

I hope it doesn't get ugly because something has to be done about it.
Stay calm. Most of the cost involved on jobs like that is the labor of prep work. Since it was already dug out and graded, if he decides to break it up and re-do it, he'll only be out about 4-5 hours of time and probably $250 or so in product, maximum(probably less).

Expect him to blow you off for a week or so. Probably take the call but tell you it'll be a while before he comes out to look at it. Give him maybe 3 weeks for some legitimate action(like come out and evaluate it, and give you an offer for repair and a date scheduled). Don't be surprised if he wants to wait at least a month for the repair. In the meantime, get him to agree that you'll go ahead and start using it, so if more damage occurs due the existing problems(cracks and such...if it moves onto another segment), that he'll cover that too.
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Damn, that sucks. I'd be super-pissed if some jackhole came and halfassed something that I was paying him two grand to do.

Good luck on getting it fixed. Above advice to stay calm is good- you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar, etc., etc. Be Mr. Nice Guy until you get it fixed, if possible. Do you have a written contract with the guy at all, or is this some kind of side work thing that he's doing?
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